Lady Richenda du Jardin, Lions Blood Herald |
Unto Christopher Black Lion and the esteemed members of the An Tir College of Heralds to whom this missive comes, Richenda du Jardin, Lions Blood Herald, sends greetings and felicitations.
COMMENTARY ON THE ITEMS IN THIS INTERNAL LETTER IS DUE ON THE 10TH OF AUGUST. COMMENTARY ON THE MAY LETTER IS DUE ON JULY 8.
The July Lions Blood meeting will be held at 1:00 at my house Directions:
From East: Take your best route to I-90 West. Get off at the Division exit (#281, I think). Go through the first traffic light (Third Ave.). Turn left at the next light (Second Ave.) Turn left at the third light (Stevens). You will go through three stop lights and turn right onto the first street after the third light (Seventh Ave).
From West: Take your best route to I-90 East. Get off at the Maple Street Exit (#280). Turn right at the third light (Stevens). Go through one light and turn right at the first street (Seventh).
My apartment is on the corner of Seventh and Howard. My apartment number is 510.
The meetings for the rest of the summer are scheduled:
Date | Location | |
June | June 11 (Knowne World Heraldic the following week) | My place |
July | July 9 (Coronation weekend after) | My place |
August | August 22 (Pennsic - so this will be during the week) | My place |
Sept | September 17 | TBD |
I am looking for people to host the July and September meetings.
The tourney season will soon be in full swing. And we all know what that means: fighters are going to want to put something on their shield and banners. So they will need lots of consulting time! More consults mean more submissions. More submissions mean bigger letters! Bigger letters mean that I need more commenters.
It's been too long since I've thanked my commenters. I want to send thanks to: Baron David of Moffat, Electrum; Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar; Lady Alicia le Wilfulle, False Isle; Lady Ursula Georges, Loyalle; Ciaran Cluana Ferta, Aestal; Juliana de Luna, Jambe; Zenobia Napthali, Black Stag; Gwenlian Catharne, Queue Forché; Áine Steele, Coeur du Val; Aryanhwy merch Catmael, Albion; Thomasine Lestrange, Cahier Rouge; Basilisk Heraldic commenting group; Green Anchor Heraldic commenting group; Æthan of Eppelhyrste; Francesca Testarossa de Martini; Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis; Owen ap Morgan; and Cnut.
In service,
Richenda du Jardin
Lions Blood
richenda@cet.com
Consulting seems to be a big and scary thing for a lot of heralds, experienced and new alike. Fears range from being asked to do 10 impossible heraldic things before breakfast to being the butt of the next "Heralds Hate Me" story. Consultation doesn't have to be frightening. And you can tell submitters that their submission has problems without making them stomping-around angry. Here are a few things that can help:
Explore the online resources.
Just as you wouldn't get in a car to drive across the country without getting a map, don't walk into a consultation table without some preparation. Read through old Herald's Pages
(http://www.antirheralds.org/IL/IL_index.html) for tidbits of advice and to see what decisions have been made on some old submissions.
Visit the Laurel website (www.sca.org/~heraldry/ [Correct URL: http://www.sca.org/heraldry/
- Online IL Ed.]). There's lots of good articles there. Print yourself out a copy of the Rules for Submission - and read it. If you don't understand something, ask. Chances are, someone else has had the same questions and has been too afraid to ask.
Visit the St. Gabriel Medieval Names archive (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/). For myself, I've printed out a bunch the articles to take to events so I can use them in consulting. Often, they are the first place I look for a name.
Make submitters feel welcome.
No one wants to walk up to a group of people they don't know and interrupt a possibly private discussion. Make sure that you are facing outward toward the event and not toward other consulting heralds. If you
are having a private discussion, walk away from the table.
Submitters want to feel like we are helping them, not hindering them. No matter how bad your event has been going, paste on that smile and make the submitter feel wanted.
Don't bury yourself or the submitter in books.
If the submitter doesn't know what they want, don't just start handing out books. Ask a few questions about their hobbies and interests or what country they are interested in. A good starting point for indecisive (or new) submitters is to start looking at saint's names, most of which have versions in for each part of Europe.
Once the submitter tells you what they are looking for, pull out a few books (no more than 4 at a time) to research. You may think lots of book make you look like you are doing everything you can to help the submitter, but the submitter will be overwhelmed and may even run away. Or the submitter may feel like you are trying to impress them with how much work it is and feel resented.
Help the submitter to enjoy the event.
If the research or conflict-checking may take a while, send the submitter out to enjoy the event and ask them to check back in an hour. Finish the research and conflict-checking
before taking on a new client (unless you are alone at the table). Then the submitter won't feel trapped because they want to get their names and armory done and can only do it at events.
Don't be afraid to ask for help.
If the submitter presents you with a request that you don't have much knowledge about, don't just hand it off to someone else. Give it the old college try. Likewise, don't let your pride get in the way of giving the submitter what they need.
If you still can't get what the submitter needs, ask for help at the table. If there is no help at the table , write the submitter's contact information and submission down and bring it to the antirheralds mailing list. Make sure you follow up with the submitter within a week or so, even if all you can say is that you are working on it.
Don't "hard-sell" the submitter on an idea.
Sometimes when a submitter comes to the table without a strong idea of what they want or if they change their minds to something radically different (I know of a consult for a name that the submitter walked in wanting an Irish name and decided during the consult she would rather have a Japanese name), write down all the information and send them home to "try it on and see if it fits." A few weeks later they may decide that it isn't really them or that their friends really mangle the pronunciation (a herald I know had someone who wanted the surname "Dumas" but changed his mind when his friend thought it was pronounced "dumb-a**").
Don't "kill the baby".
If a submitter's idea has a rules/style issue or a conflict, whether it be a name submission or an armory submission, tell them gently. Remember, no matter what the herald in you thinks, this is somebody's baby that they have spend a great deal of time thinking about and becoming emotionally tied to.
Be honest with the submitter.
Whatever you do - don't give the submitter a line of bull. Be tactful, but truthful. Don't tell them Argent, on a bend sinister lozengy purpure and Or three bears ermine is against the rules or has a conflict just because you don't like it. Don't tell them Grasshopper Hatimoto is okay if you don't know Japanese naming practices. When they find out that you weren't totally honest with them, they will feel tricked or betrayed.
Ask the submitter if they are satisfied and thank them for the consult.
If the submitter isn't satisfied with the result of the consult, ask another herald who has more experience in the area to step in or introduce them to the online heralding consulting herald
(book-heraldry@antir.sca.org). If you do so, make sure to cc: the submitter so they aren't caught unprepared.
Have fun!
Consulting can be hard work, but most of the time it is rewarding hard work. If you find you doing nothing but consulting at events, set consultation hours or choose not to consult at some events. Remember, you go to events to have fun too.
Below are the results of the May Lions Blood meeting.
There is no difference given between a compass rose and a compass star within an annulet. [Stephen macThomas, 06/00, R-Ansteorra]Thus there is a CD between a compass rose and a compass star.
[a cross formy fitchy vs a cross formy fitchy throughout] In general there is a difference between an ordinary throughout vs. an ordinary couped, but not between a non-ordinary throughout vs. its non-throughout version. Most types of crosses work more like non-ordinaries, but crosses formy are exceptional: in their throughout form they in many ways act as ordinaries. In particular both crosses and crosses formy are occasionally found overlying quartered arms, and crosses formy having flat ends merge into the edge of the shield. This may not apply to crosses in general, but in this instance there is the necessary second CD. (Seth Williamson of Exeter, 5/97 p. 3)Sasha Vladimir Obolénskij, June 1991, Per bend sinister azure and sable, a mullet of four points bendwise, elongated to dexter chief argent. There is 1 CD for the change of orientation of the mullet. There is no CD for the elongating the bottom point of the mullet.
There is no difference for the small artistic change between a mullet dismembered and a mullet. Note that precedent does not give difference between a compass star and a riven star, showing a case where similar (although not identical) breaks in a star are not worth difference: "…nor is there a CD between a compass star and a riven star" (LoAR April 2001). [Margyt Withycombe, 11/02, R-Middle]This is clear of Eleanor Leonard, July 1982, (Tinctureless) A mullet of four points distilling a goutte. Eleanor gave permission to conflict if the field and/or mullet are not solid plain tinctures. To be covered by her letter of permission to conflict, a submission must have either a field of multiple tinctures (including furs), a mullet of multiple tinctures (including furs), or both a field and a mullet of multiple tinctures (including furs). Since Maccus' mullet is not on a solidly tinctured field, he is covered by her permission to conflict.
To be ruled on at the August Lions Blood Meeting.
1. Aeowyn Tilghman | Coeur du Val | Name & Device, New |
Gules, a swan naiant above two bars wavy and in chief three etoiles argent The submitter will not accept major changes to her name, desires a female name and is interested in having her name be authentic for the Anglo-Saxon language/culture. If her name must be changed, she cares most about the language/culture. She will not allow the creation of a holding name. |
2. Áine Steele | Coeur du Val | Name & Device, Resubmission to Kingdom |
Sable, two chevronels and in chief an arrow fesswise argent The submitter's previous name submission, Áine inghean uí Steele, was returned in January 2006 for the use of a clan affiliation/familiar relationship with the surname Steele which is neither a clan name for a man's name in Gaelic; no major changes were allowed. The device submission was returned
for a lack of a name. |
3. Aline Blackwood | Seagirt | Name & Device, New |
Argent, four lozenges vert conjoined in cross. The submitter will not accept major changes, cares most about the sound of the name, desires a female name and is interested in having her name be authentic for the English language/culture (no time period given). She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary. |
4. Armatus Kamateros | Myrgan Wood | Device, Resubmission to Kingdom |
Azure, a cross of calvary potent argent, three mullets of eight points in chief or The submitter's name was registered in August of 2005. |
5. Brion Glefelagh | Lions Gate | Name, New |
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the sound of his name, desires a male name and expresses no interest in authenticity. He will accept the creation of a holding name if necessary. |
6. Cristin Drache | Dragons Mist | Name, New |
The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, expresses no preferences if the name must be changed, doesn't care about gender and expresses no interest in authenticity. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary. |
7. Cristin Drache, for Haus zum Drachen | Aquaterra | Household Name, New |
The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, does not express a preference if the name must be changed, doesn't care about gender and expresses no preference for authenticity. The creation of a holding name is allowed. |
8. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Flame Award | Award Name & Badge, New | |
Per Pale Gules and Sable, within a Bordure Or, a Flame Or. The branch name was registered in September of 1996. |
9. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Pearl Award | Award Name & Badge, New | |
Per pale gules and sable, a dragon's claw or maintaining a pearl argent The branch name was registered in September of 1996. |
10. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Ward Award | Award Name & Badge, New | |
Per pale gules and sable, within a bordure or, per bend a shephard's crook or The branch name was registered in September of 1996. |
11. Elin Karlsdotter | Wyewood | Name & Device, New |
Azure a chevron gules fimbriated argent between three mullets of six points argent The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, desires a female name authentic for 12th-15th century Norse, and cares most about the language/culture of her name. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary. |
12. Elína Kársdóttir | Seagirt | Name, New |
The submitter will allow any changes necessary for registration, desires a female name, cares most about language/ culture and is interested in authenticity for 10th century Norse language/culture. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary. |
13. Grimwithshire | Device, Resubmission to Kingdom | |
Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated sable and on a chief embattled gules three laurel wreaths Or The branch name was registered in May 2005. |
14. Guillaine Rosalind de Gualle | Borealis | Device, New |
Gules, on a bend sinister cotised argent three fleur-de-lys pale wise sable The submitter's name was registered in October of 1998. |
15. Guillaine Rosalind de Gualle | Borealis | Badge, New |
Fieldless, a fleur-de-lys per pale, sable and gules, charged with a letter 'G' or. The submitter's name was registered in October of 1998. |
16. Heinrich von Solingen | Windwyrm | Name & Device, New |
Per Pale gules and argent, a wolf's head affronty between in fess two wolves' heads addorsed, all conjoined at the neck counterchanged, and a mullet sable The submitter will allow any changes necessary for registration, desires a male name, cares most about the language/culture of his name, and is interested in having his name be authentic for the language/culture of late
14th century to early 15th century Germany. He will allow the creation of a holding name. |
17. Robin of Thornwood | Madrone | Device, Resubmission to Kingdom |
Argent a robin proper between three Hawthorn trees blossomed proper eradicated and a bordure vert The submitter's name was registered in July 2001. |
18. Robin of Thornwood | Madrone | Badge, Resubmission to Kingdom |
(Fieldless) A robin proper The submitter's name was registered in July 2001. |
19. Rohesia Morleigh | Aquaterra | Device, New |
Per fess wavey Purpure and vert, a celtic cross, and in chief a mullet of seven points or The submitter's name was registered in January 2004. |
20. Ronan Barrett | Silverhart | Name & Device, New |
Sable, a snipe Rising, wings Elevated and Addorsed to sinister argent, on a Chief Argent Three Talons Sable. The submitter will accept any changes, does not care about meaning, sound or language/culture, does not indicate a desired gender and expresses no interest in authenticity. He will allow the creation of a holding name. |
21. Tangwystl verch Maredudd | Terra Pomaria | Device, New |
Lozengy gules and sable, a rose gules, barbed and seeded on a roundel or The submitter's name was registered in October of 2002. |
22. Tomas MacDonagh | Wyewood | Name & Device, New |
Per pale vert and azure, a chevron ermine between three rondels in chevron and an arrow inverted Or. The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the sound of the name, desires a male name and is interested in having his name be authentic for
12th-14th century Scotch. He will allow the creation of a holding name. |
Written by Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar Pursuivant |
Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis |
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