An Tir Internal Letter for June, AS XXXXI / 2006 CE

Arms of Lady Richenda du Jardin

Lady Richenda du Jardin, Lions Blood Herald
524 W. 7th Avenue, #510
Spokane, WA 99204
509-455-5137 or richenda@cet.com



Unto Christopher Black Lion and the esteemed members of the An Tir College of Heralds to whom this missive comes, Richenda du Jardin, Lions Blood Herald, sends greetings and felicitations.

COMMENTARY ON THE ITEMS IN THIS INTERNAL LETTER IS DUE ON THE 10TH OF AUGUST. COMMENTARY ON THE MAY LETTER IS DUE ON JULY 8.

The July Lions Blood meeting will be held at 1:00 at my house Directions:

From East: Take your best route to I-90 West. Get off at the Division exit (#281, I think). Go through the first traffic light (Third Ave.). Turn left at the next light (Second Ave.) Turn left at the third light (Stevens). You will go through three stop lights and turn right onto the first street after the third light (Seventh Ave).

From West: Take your best route to I-90 East. Get off at the Maple Street Exit (#280). Turn right at the third light (Stevens). Go through one light and turn right at the first street (Seventh).

My apartment is on the corner of Seventh and Howard. My apartment number is 510.

The meetings for the rest of the summer are scheduled:

  Date Location
June June 11 (Knowne World Heraldic the following week) My place
July July 9 (Coronation weekend after) My place
August August 22 (Pennsic - so this will be during the week) My place
Sept September 17 TBD

I am looking for people to host the July and September meetings.

LETTERS FROM KINGDOM HERALDIC STAFF

From Lions Blood

The tourney season will soon be in full swing. And we all know what that means: fighters are going to want to put something on their shield and banners. So they will need lots of consulting time! More consults mean more submissions. More submissions mean bigger letters! Bigger letters mean that I need more commenters.

It's been too long since I've thanked my commenters. I want to send thanks to: Baron David of Moffat, Electrum; Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar; Lady Alicia le Wilfulle, False Isle; Lady Ursula Georges, Loyalle; Ciaran Cluana Ferta, Aestal; Juliana de Luna, Jambe; Zenobia Napthali, Black Stag; Gwenlian Catharne, Queue Forché; Áine Steele, Coeur du Val; Aryanhwy merch Catmael, Albion; Thomasine Lestrange, Cahier Rouge; Basilisk Heraldic commenting group; Green Anchor Heraldic commenting group; Æthan of Eppelhyrste; Francesca Testarossa de Martini; Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis; Owen ap Morgan; and Cnut.

In service,

Richenda du Jardin
Lions Blood
richenda@cet.com

HERALDIC ARTICLES

10 Easy Tricks for a Good Consultation

Consulting seems to be a big and scary thing for a lot of heralds, experienced and new alike. Fears range from being asked to do 10 impossible heraldic things before breakfast to being the butt of the next "Heralds Hate Me" story. Consultation doesn't have to be frightening. And you can tell submitters that their submission has problems without making them stomping-around angry. Here are a few things that can help:

  1. Explore the online resources.

    Just as you wouldn't get in a car to drive across the country without getting a map, don't walk into a consultation table without some preparation. Read through old Herald's Pages (http://www.antirheralds.org/IL/IL_index.html) for tidbits of advice and to see what decisions have been made on some old submissions.
    Visit the Laurel website (www.sca.org/~heraldry/ [Correct URL: http://www.sca.org/heraldry/ - Online IL Ed.]). There's lots of good articles there. Print yourself out a copy of the Rules for Submission - and read it. If you don't understand something, ask. Chances are, someone else has had the same questions and has been too afraid to ask.
    Visit the St. Gabriel Medieval Names archive (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/). For myself, I've printed out a bunch the articles to take to events so I can use them in consulting. Often, they are the first place I look for a name.

  2. Make submitters feel welcome.

    No one wants to walk up to a group of people they don't know and interrupt a possibly private discussion. Make sure that you are facing outward toward the event and not toward other consulting heralds. If you are having a private discussion, walk away from the table.
    Submitters want to feel like we are helping them, not hindering them. No matter how bad your event has been going, paste on that smile and make the submitter feel wanted.

  3. Don't bury yourself or the submitter in books.

    If the submitter doesn't know what they want, don't just start handing out books. Ask a few questions about their hobbies and interests or what country they are interested in. A good starting point for indecisive (or new) submitters is to start looking at saint's names, most of which have versions in for each part of Europe.
    Once the submitter tells you what they are looking for, pull out a few books (no more than 4 at a time) to research. You may think lots of book make you look like you are doing everything you can to help the submitter, but the submitter will be overwhelmed and may even run away. Or the submitter may feel like you are trying to impress them with how much work it is and feel resented.

  4. Help the submitter to enjoy the event.

    If the research or conflict-checking may take a while, send the submitter out to enjoy the event and ask them to check back in an hour. Finish the research and conflict-checking before taking on a new client (unless you are alone at the table). Then the submitter won't feel trapped because they want to get their names and armory done and can only do it at events.

  5. Don't be afraid to ask for help.

    If the submitter presents you with a request that you don't have much knowledge about, don't just hand it off to someone else. Give it the old college try. Likewise, don't let your pride get in the way of giving the submitter what they need.
    If you still can't get what the submitter needs, ask for help at the table. If there is no help at the table , write the submitter's contact information and submission down and bring it to the antirheralds mailing list. Make sure you follow up with the submitter within a week or so, even if all you can say is that you are working on it.

  6. Don't "hard-sell" the submitter on an idea.

    Sometimes when a submitter comes to the table without a strong idea of what they want or if they change their minds to something radically different (I know of a consult for a name that the submitter walked in wanting an Irish name and decided during the consult she would rather have a Japanese name), write down all the information and send them home to "try it on and see if it fits." A few weeks later they may decide that it isn't really them or that their friends really mangle the pronunciation (a herald I know had someone who wanted the surname "Dumas" but changed his mind when his friend thought it was pronounced "dumb-a**").

  7. Don't "kill the baby".

    If a submitter's idea has a rules/style issue or a conflict, whether it be a name submission or an armory submission, tell them gently. Remember, no matter what the herald in you thinks, this is somebody's baby that they have spend a great deal of time thinking about and becoming emotionally tied to.

  8. Be honest with the submitter.

    Whatever you do - don't give the submitter a line of bull. Be tactful, but truthful. Don't tell them Argent, on a bend sinister lozengy purpure and Or three bears ermine is against the rules or has a conflict just because you don't like it. Don't tell them Grasshopper Hatimoto is okay if you don't know Japanese naming practices. When they find out that you weren't totally honest with them, they will feel tricked or betrayed.

  9. Ask the submitter if they are satisfied and thank them for the consult.

    If the submitter isn't satisfied with the result of the consult, ask another herald who has more experience in the area to step in or introduce them to the online heralding consulting herald (book-heraldry@antir.sca.org). If you do so, make sure to cc: the submitter so they aren't caught unprepared.

  10. Have fun!

    Consulting can be hard work, but most of the time it is rewarding hard work. If you find you doing nothing but consulting at events, set consultation hours or choose not to consult at some events. Remember, you go to events to have fun too.

LIONS BLOOD ACTIONS

Below are the results of the May Lions Blood meeting.

These items will be forwarded to Laurel, and are tentatively scheduled to be decided in September

These items are being returned for further work


NEW SUBMISSIONS

To be ruled on at the August Lions Blood Meeting.

1. Aeowyn Tilghman Coeur du Val Name & Device, New

Gules, a swan naiant above two bars wavy and in chief three etoiles argent

The submitter will not accept major changes to her name, desires a female name and is interested in having her name be authentic for the Anglo-Saxon language/culture. If her name must be changed, she cares most about the language/culture. She will not allow the creation of a holding name.

The submitter includes the following note: "If at all possible I would like to preserve the Ae (not Æ) in the first name. One justification for this spelling is as a possible latinization in which case I would accept the last name spelling of "Tilman" as found in an early 11th-century copy of Bede's "Opera Hisotrica" in Anglo-Saxon, located online through Oxford's manuscript gallery." [no cite or other documentation is provided for this source - Lí Ban Boar]

The submitter lists Searle's Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum as documentation for the protheme Eo- and deuterotheme -wyn in email correspondence with Áine Steele, Coeur du Val Pursuivant: "Eowine is found as an Anglo-Saxon given name in W.G. Searle's Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum, p244. Eowyn is found as elements of English, Welsh, French and Irish names in the SCA Armorial."

She includes documentation for the prior registration of "Eowyn" in October 2002 from three sources: Æthelmearc's Internal Letter (http://www.aeheralds.net/Letters/AE57/iloi.html), the corresponding Letter of Report (http://www.aeheralds.net/Letters/AE57/lor.html, entry #14) and the October 2002 LoAR (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/10/02-10lar.html).

Also included is a copy of the Academy of Saint Gabriel's Report 826 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/826) which states "<Eowyn> appears to be Old English feminine given name, but it is not one that is recorded in our references. It is plausible: The element <Eo-> exists, though it is rare, and <-wyn> was very common…"

She provides no documentation for the spelling Aeowyn. Copies of her documentation were provided.

The submitter documents Tilghman from "English Names from Pre-1600 Brass Inscriptions" by Julian Goodwyn (mka Josh Mittleman) at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/lastnameAB.html which lists Tilghman as having one occurrence in 1530, in Kent [URL provided takes one to the first page of the lists not the list for the letter T - Lí Ban Boar]. Further documentation is provided from "The Visitation of Kent, 1619" found online at http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Kent/visitation/ which dates "Johannes Tilghman", just based on how far back the tree stretches, to around the 13th Century. A photocopy of a family tree page from "The Visitation of Kent, 1619" is included; there is no copyright or cover page included. Also included is the page from the online article which lists Tilghman; again no cover or introductory page is included nor is there an URL on the page.

The submitter states the following: "I believe that the name Eowyn Tilghman could be easily registered as early as a 13th Century feminine English name. Taking the spelling "Aeowyn Tilman" could date it back as far as the 10th Century, provided that the combination of (ae) and (eo) is found to be a period grammatical practice. Another possible combination for the earlier 10th Century documentation is "Eowyn Tilman".



2. Áine Steele Coeur du Val Name & Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Sable, two chevronels and in chief an arrow fesswise argent

The submitter's previous name submission, Áine inghean uí Steele, was returned in January 2006 for the use of a clan affiliation/familiar relationship with the surname Steele which is neither a clan name for a man's name in Gaelic; no major changes were allowed. The device submission was returned for a lack of a name.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a female name and wishes her name to be authentic for 12th-14th century Irish. She cares most about the language/culture of her name. She will allow the creation of a holding name.

The only documentation included with this submission is an excerpt from the An Tir College of Heralds January Internal Letter indicating the reasons for return and including the following: "Many commenters pointed out that Áine Steele would be a perfectly registerable name."



3. Aline Blackwood Seagirt Name & Device, New

Argent, four lozenges vert conjoined in cross.

The submitter will not accept major changes, cares most about the sound of the name, desires a female name and is interested in having her name be authentic for the English language/culture (no time period given). She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary.

Aline is documented from "A Dictionary of English Surnames", under "Feminine Given Names" online at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Aline dated to 1428.

Blackwood is documented from "Biographical Index of English Drama Before 1600" online at http://www.shakespeareauthorship.com/bd/bio-b.htm dated 1592-1606.

Copies of both articles are included.



4. Armatus Kamateros Myrgan Wood Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Azure, a cross of calvary potent argent, three mullets of eight points in chief or

The submitter's name was registered in August of 2005.

His previous device of the same blazon was returned in May 2005 for a redraw to a more proper depiction of a cross of cavalry. This submission addresses that issue.



5. Brion Glefelagh Lions Gate Name, New

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the sound of his name, desires a male name and expresses no interest in authenticity. He will accept the creation of a holding name if necessary.

Brion is documented from http://www.medievalscotland.org/problem/names/brianna.shtml as follows: Brianna is a modern feminine form of Brian. The masculine name, originally Brion, dates back at least to the 9th century, and forms of it were in use in Brittany and Ireland from that time, and in England from the Norman Conquest onward.

Glefelagh is documented via an email to the antir-heralds email list in Fionnghuala Gorges queries the possibility of combining "Glee" with "-felagh" (as shown in "Fayrefelage" from "Misplaced" names from Reaney and Wilson at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/misplacednamesbyname.htm). David Electrum provides documentation for "Glee" from Reaney & Wilson, 3rd ed, p 193 (sub Gleeman) shows Glemanus (c. 1066), Gleuman (1168), Gleman (1201), Gleuman (1306) and Gleman (1486), all derived from the OE gliwman, gleoman. "minstrel" or from the personal name. He also provides the following from Bardsley, Dictionary of English and Welse Surnames, p 321 (sub Glew) derived from the ME glee/gleu/gleu, giving as examples Glewe (1273), Glugh (1379), Glwe (1379) and Glew (1379). R&W 3rd, sub Glew derives this surname from the OE gleaw - wise or prudent.

Copies of the article and the email were provided with this submission.



6. Cristin Drache Dragons Mist Name, New

The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, expresses no preferences if the name must be changed, doesn't care about gender and expresses no interest in authenticity. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary.

Cristin is found in German Names from 1495 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html with a frequency of 5. Included is a note from the consulting herald (Rafaella d'Allemtejo): "we're using the feminine form which is found father down the document under Feminine Names/Cristina, see attached dox".

Drache, meaning dragon is dated to 1357 from Bahlow (trans. Gentry, 2nd ed., p. 85, sub. Draa(c)k): "Dracke (LGer): dragon, NHG Drache, UGer. Drach: SW Ger. Also a house n.: thus in Frkr. "zum Drachen." J. van deme Drachin, Trier 1363; C. Drache, Frkf. 1357."

Copies of the online article are included.



7. Cristin Drache, for Haus zum Drachen Aquaterra Household Name, New

The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, does not express a preference if the name must be changed, doesn't care about gender and expresses no preference for authenticity. The creation of a holding name is allowed.

"zum Drachen" is found in Bahlow (trans. Gentry, 2nd ed., p. 85, sub. Draa(c)k): "Dracke (LGer.): dragon, MHG Drache. UGer. Drach: SW Ger. also a house n.: thus in Trkf. "sum Drachen." J. van deme Drachin, Trier 1363; C. Drache, Frkf. 1357."



8. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Flame Award   Award Name & Badge, New

Per Pale Gules and Sable, within a Bordure Or, a Flame Or.

The branch name was registered in September of 1996.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about meaning which is unreadable, desires the name to be androgynous and says authenticity is irrelevant.

As documentation the submitter provides the following: "It being presumed that neither dragons nor flames needs be documented as being extant, even fictionally, in period, none is provided."

No signatures from the Baron or Baroness are included.



9. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Pearl Award   Award Name & Badge, New

Per pale gules and sable, a dragon's claw or maintaining a pearl argent

The branch name was registered in September of 1996.

The submitter will allow any changes necessary for registration, cares most about meaning which is expressed to be "the pearl of the dragon", desires the name to be androgynous and says that authenticity is irrelevant.

No documentation is provided.

No signatures of the Baron or Baroness are included.



10. Dragon's Laire, Barony of, for Dragon's Ward Award   Award Name & Badge, New

Per pale gules and sable, within a bordure or, per bend a shephard's crook or

The branch name was registered in September of 1996.

The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, doesn't care about meaning, sound or language/culture if the name must be changed, wants to name to be androgynous and states that authenticity is irrelevant. The creation of a holding name is acceptable.

As documentation the submitter provides the following: "It being presumed that neither dragons, nor wards, (pertaining to youth under protection or tutelage) needs to be documented as being extant, even fictionally, in period, none is provided."

No signatures of the Baron or Baroness are present on the forms.



11. Elin Karlsdotter Wyewood Name & Device, New

Azure a chevron gules fimbriated argent between three mullets of six points argent

The submitter will accept any changes necessary for registration, desires a female name authentic for 12th-15th century Norse, and cares most about the language/culture of her name. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary.

Elin is documented from "Swedish Feminine Given Names from SMP" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/smp/smp1400.html and http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/smp/elin.html.

Karl is documented as Swedish by Geirr Bassi Haraldsson.

-dotter is documented as "the genitive (possessive) form of the bearer's father's name" from "Swedish Feminine Given Names from SMP" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/smp/.

Copies of the article are included.

The submitter has included a letter of permission to conflict with Elína Kársdóttir, item #12 on this letter.



12. Elína Kársdóttir Seagirt Name, New

The submitter will allow any changes necessary for registration, desires a female name, cares most about language/ culture and is interested in authenticity for 10th century Norse language/culture. She will allow the creation of a holding name if necessary.

Both Elína and Kárr appear in The Old Norse Name by Geirr Bassi Haraldson. Elína is on page 9. Kárr is on page 12.

The submitter has included a letter of permission to conflict with Elin Karlsdotter, item #11 on this letter.



13. Grimwithshire   Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated sable and on a chief embattled gules three laurel wreaths Or

The branch name was registered in May 2005.

The previous device submission, Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated sable and on a chief enarched gules three laurel wreaths Or, was returned in June 2005 for conflict with the Barony of Darkwood, Argent an oak sable, fructed Or and argent, on a chief sable three laurel wreaths Or and for recoloring of the laurel wreaths (they were such a pale yellow that they appeared argent).

This submission addresses these issues.

No petition was included with this submission.



14. Guillaine Rosalind de Gualle Borealis Device, New

Gules, on a bend sinister cotised argent three fleur-de-lys pale wise sable

The submitter's name was registered in October of 1998.



15. Guillaine Rosalind de Gualle Borealis Badge, New

Fieldless, a fleur-de-lys per pale, sable and gules, charged with a letter 'G' or.

The submitter's name was registered in October of 1998.



16. Heinrich von Solingen Windwyrm Name & Device, New

Per Pale gules and argent, a wolf's head affronty between in fess two wolves' heads addorsed, all conjoined at the neck counterchanged, and a mullet sable

The submitter will allow any changes necessary for registration, desires a male name, cares most about the language/culture of his name, and is interested in having his name be authentic for the language/culture of late 14th century to early 15th century Germany. He will allow the creation of a holding name.

Heinrich is the German for Henry (Oxford Dictionary, Second Edition, Volume 6, Page 676, Good Henry) or Harry (Oxford Dictionary, Second Edition, Volume 6, Page 1133, Harry).

Von is German for "of".

Solingen is a town in western Germany, first mentioned in 965 (Source: Wickipedia.org), chartered in 1374 (Source: The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia).

No URLs or actual copies of the relevant articles for Solingen are included. All documentation was copied and pasted into another document with only the title of the source and the licensing information.

No copies of the documentation for Heinrich were provided.

The device form was colored with pencil crayons, and the gules more burgundy rather than red.



17. Robin of Thornwood Madrone Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Argent a robin proper between three Hawthorn trees blossomed proper eradicated and a bordure vert

The submitter's name was registered in July 2001.

The submitter's previous device submission of the same blazon was returned in October 2005 for depiction neither an American nor a European robin in terms of coloration. This resubmission addresses this issue.

The robin has brown wings, back, tail and top of head; the under portion of the head and upper breast are red; the lower chest and belly are white and the beak and feet are black; the eye has a white ring around a black center. The hawthorn trees have green foliage, brown trunks and roots and white blossoms.



18. Robin of Thornwood Madrone Badge, Resubmission to Kingdom

(Fieldless) A robin proper

The submitter's name was registered in July 2001.

The submitter's previous badge submission of the same blazon was returned in October 2005 for depicting neither the American nor European robin in terms of coloration. This submission addresses that issue.

The robin has a brown back, wings, tail and top of head; the lower portion of the head and upper chest are red; the lower chest and belly are white; the beak and leggs are black; the eye is black with a white ring around it. The bird has a red berry in its beak.



19. Rohesia Morleigh Aquaterra Device, New

Per fess wavey Purpure and vert, a celtic cross, and in chief a mullet of seven points or

The submitter's name was registered in January 2004.



20. Ronan Barrett Silverhart Name & Device, New

Sable, a snipe Rising, wings Elevated and Addorsed to sinister argent, on a Chief Argent Three Talons Sable.

The submitter will accept any changes, does not care about meaning, sound or language/culture, does not indicate a desired gender and expresses no interest in authenticity. He will allow the creation of a holding name.

Ronan is documented from "Behind the Name: the etymology and history of first names" 
(http://www.behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=ro10na10n) which indicates the name is Irish, means "little seal", and is derived from the Irish rón "seal" combined with a diminutive suffix. It is also documented from "100 Most Popular Men's Names in Early Medieval Ireland" by Heather Rose Jones (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/irish100/) as Rónán with a frequency of 47 and from "Traditional Irish Names" (http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~bj333/HomePage.boys.html) which, in addition of the meaning of "seal" states "Ten saints, including Ronan of Lough Derg and Ronan of Lismore had this name."

Barrett is the submitter's legal surname. A photocopy of his driver's license is included with this submission.

Copies of all articles mentioned above are included.



21. Tangwystl verch Maredudd Terra Pomaria Device, New

Lozengy gules and sable, a rose gules, barbed and seeded on a roundel or

The submitter's name was registered in October of 2002.

The rose is red with green barbs and yellow seeds.



22. Tomas MacDonagh Wyewood  Name & Device, New

Per pale vert and azure, a chevron ermine between three rondels in chevron and an arrow inverted Or.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the sound of the name, desires a male name and is interested in having his name be authentic for 12th-14th century Scotch. He will allow the creation of a holding name.

Tomas is documented as a masculine given name, found with this spells (Hugo Tomas, 1317) in Reaney and Wilson sub Thomas, Tomas.

MacDonagh is a header spelling in MacLysaght Surnames of Ireland", from the Gaelic Mac Donnchadha.

The submitter also included a copy of his drivers license in support of Thomas.

The name form has the given name spelled Tomas, the device form has the given name spelled Thomas.



Arms of Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn

Written by Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar Pursuivant

Azure a bantam cock statant wings elevated and addorsed on a chief argent an annulet sable.

Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis
Online IL Editor
uilliam@shaw.ca

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