An Tir Internal Letter for March, AS XXXIX / 2005 CE


Baron David of Moffat, Lions Blood Herald
David Hunter of Montlaw
1703 Crosby Ct SW * Tumwater, Washington 98512
360-705-0550 or amoffatamoffat@juno.com


4 March 2005

Unto the Good Gentles of An Tir, does David of Moffat, Lions Blood Herald, send these Greetings.

COMMENTARY ON THIS LETTER IS DUE 12 MAY 2005.

The March 2005 Lions Blood Meeting will be held on 20 March 2005 at 1:00 pm at my house, and will consider the submissions on the January 2005 Internal Letter. Directions to my house are as follows:

Take your favorite route to I-5. Travel I-5 to exit 104 (highway 101) in Olympia, Washington. Take exit 104, and get into the rightmost lane as quickly as possible. Take the first exit off of Highway 101, which is Cooper Point, Auto Mall, Evergreen Parkway, and Crosby Blvd. At the top of the exit ramp, get into the center lane turning left over the freeway. Turn left. Staying in this lane, go through three lights. You are now on Crosby Blvd. Stay on this road until you reach Crosby Court, past the dead end sign. Turn right into Crosby Ct, and turn left into the first driveway.



Laurel Acceptances and Returns

When this Internal Letter was being drafted, no new Letter of Acceptances and Returns from Laurel Sovereign had been received since the last Internal Letter, so there are no announcements about any new registrations or returns.

Announcement and Reminder

This is a reminder that when I stepped up as Lions Blood Herald, I agreed to do it on an interim basis through June 2005. Black Lion Principal Herald is still accepting applications to assume this office at that time. Those people who have submitted applications should be aware that your applications are still being considered.

Results from the February 2005 Lions Blood Meeting

At the Lions Blood Meeting for February 2005, Letters of Comment and participation at the meeting was received from Zenobia Black Stag, Elisabeth Pomegranate, Frederic Black Lion, Gwenlian Sinister Gauntlet, Esclarmonde Wyewood, Elsa Hakonsdottir, Ursula St Bunstable, Gunnvor silfraharr, Li Ban ingen Eochthiarna, Francesca Testarossa de Martini, Cnute, Aryanwyh Rede Boke, and Eglentyne Merryweather.

The following items were forward to Laurel Sovereign of Arms in the February 2005 An Tir Letter of Intent:

At the Lions Blood meeting held on 20 February 2005, the following items were returned for further work:


New Submissions

These submissions will be considered at the May 2005 Lions Blood Meeting.

1. Ailionóra inghean Tighearnaigh Grimwithshire Device, New

Argent, on a bend engrailed azure between a brown horse salient and a tree proper, three gouttes argent

The submitter's name was registered in June 2003.


2. Aodagán Duueglas Seagirt Name and Device, New

Argent, a chevron wavy vert in base a fir tree eradicated azure

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about sound, desires a masculine name, is interested in a name authentice for the 13th to 14th century time period, and will allow a holding name.

Aodagán can be found in Woulfe, Patrick, Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall: Irish Names and Surnames, s.n. Egan, page 48.

Duueglas is listed as a variant of Douglas in Black, George F, The Surnames of Scotland, s.n. Douglas, pages 217-8, dated to 1204-1211. Black states “William deDuueglas also witnessed a charter by Thomas, Son of Thancad, in favour of the abbey of Arbroath.”


3. Azemar de Lyon False Isle Name and Device, New

Argent, on a cross sable five apples stemmed and leaved Or

The submitter will accept minor changes, does not indicate what he most cares about, desires a masculine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Azemar can be found in the Academy of St. Gabriel's Medieval Names Library in an article called “French/Occitan Names from the XIII Century” at http://www.s-gabriel.org/ names/ramon/occitan/occitan_a.html , s.n. Azémar. Copies of documentation were included.

Lyon is the name of a medieval city in France at the confluence of the Rhône and Saône rivers, according to http://www.lyonfrance.com/pages/en/ decouvrezlyon/presentationdelyon/themesmajeurs/ thememajeur9.html. Copies of documentation were included.


4. Bacchus Magnus Ambergard Name and Device, New

Gules, a heron wings displayed, on a base argent a comet fesswise gules

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (Greek/Roman), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 12th-14th century Greek/Roman, and will allow a holding name.

Bacchus is documented from report #933 of the Academy of St. Gabriel. The Academy asserts that Bacchus was known as the Roman god of wine, whiskey and revelry. It further asserts that Bacchus as a common name in Roman Scotland from around the year 900, but no references are provided. Copies of documentation were included.

Magnus can be found in the Wikipedia Online (no URL provided). Magnus Maximus was born in 335 and died in 388. During his lifetime, he was emperor of the Western Roman Empire and king of the Bretons, but was defeated and executed by Theodosius I. Furthermore, Magnus has been documented as a surname from a web site about Albertus Magnus (no URL provided). Albertus Magnus was born in 1206 and died in 1280. Copies of documentation were included.


5. Bacchus Magnus Ambergard Badge, New

(Fieldless) A comet bearded sinister gules issuant a herons wing to dexter, a herons leg to base.

The wing and leg are both argent.

The submitter's name is submitted above.


6. Blaithnaid of Grimwith Grimwithshire Name and Device, New

Argent, a ram rampant gules and on a chief rayonne sable, two pairs of arrows in saltire argent

The submitter will accept any changes, does not indicate which she cares most about, desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Blaithnaid is documented as a traditional Irish name from http://members.tripod.com/~roisindubh/ trad.html. Copies of documentation were not included.

Grimwith is the name of the incipient shire the submitter lives in. The branch name is in submission on the January 2005 An Tir LoI.


7. Casse Tempeste Lyonsmarche Name, Change

The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified), desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

The submitter's name, Casse Tempeste le Wolf, was registered in August 2004. The submitter wishes to drop “le Wolf” from her name per the Pelican Queen of Arms suggestion for authenticity. If this change is accepted, she wishes to release the name “Casse Tempeste le Wolf.”


8. Caesaria Beribroun St. Giles Name and Device, New

Azure, two domestic cats counterrampant guardant in saltire Or

The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about sound, desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Caesaria can be found in Talan Gwynek's “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames” (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ talan/reaney ). Caesaria is derived from Caesar. Copies of documentation were included.

Beriboun can be found in Jeanne Marie Lacroix's “‘Misplaced’ Names in Reaney and Wilson” (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/ misplacednames.htm ). Beribroun is dated to 1505-6 in Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, s.n. Brownnutt.


9. Ciarmhac UaCeallaig Wyewood Name and Device, New

Azure, A Tower Argent, Overall two Enfields Combatant Or

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (Irish/Gaelic), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 15th-16th century Irish/Gaelic, and will allow a holding name.

Ciarmhac can be found in Ó Corrain, Donnchadh & Maguire, Fidelma, Irish Names, s.n. Ciarmacc.

UaCeallaig can be found in Woulfe, Patrick, Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall: Irish Names and Surnames, s.n. O'Ceallaig or Ceallac.


10. Corwyn de Wemyss   Device, Change

Per pale vert and azure, an aegishjalmr or

The submitter's name was registered in February 1992. His device, Per pale vert and azure, a dragon passant contourny and a bordure embattled Or, was registered in March 1997. If this device change is approved, he would like to release his old device.


11. Duncan MacDuff Heron's Reach Badge, Resubmission

Azure, a dance ermine between a hart's head cabossed and two escallops Or

The submitter's previous badge, Azure, a dance ermine between a hart's head cabossed and two escallops Or, was returned at kingdom in June 2004 for a redraw as it had too many indentations, per the following precedent: “As a general rule, for a complex line of division to be sufficiently ‘big and bold’, along a fess line this most frequently means three ‘bumps’; along a pale or bend line perhaps as many as five. [12a/93, p.17].” This depiction has many fewer indentations that the returned emblazon. The prior submission had 11 indentations on each side of the fess. The submitter's name was registered in September 2002.


12. Elizabeth Little False Isle Name and Device, New

Purpure scaly argent

The submitter will accept minor changes, does not indicate which she cares most about, desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Elizabeth can be found in Talan Gwynek's “List of Feminine Personal Names Found in Scottish Records, Part Three: Post-1400 Names,” s.n. Elizabeth, at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/ scottishfem/scottishfemlate.html, and in Talan Gwynek's “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames” at http://www.s-gabriel.org/ names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Elizabeth. Elizabeth can also be found in Arianwhy merch Catemael's “Names of Women Mentioned in the Perth Guildry,” s.n. Elizabeth, at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/ names/perth.html. Finally, Elizabeth can be found in Withycombe, E.G., Oxford Dictionary of Christian Names, s.n. Elizabeth. Copies of documentation were included.

Little is found on the Clan Little web site at http://www.tartans.com/clans/Little/little.html. This site dates Litill to 1351, Little to 1398, and Litil to 1500. The Clan Little Society web page dates Little to 1296 and Litill to 1351 and 1456. Copies of documentation were included.
[Corrected URL: http://www.tartans.com/modules.php ?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=228 &mode=thread&order=0&thold=0; same reference used in February IL submission Ashley Little. - Online IL Deputy]

The purpure in this device is a light purple, decidedly more purple than lilac or lavender.


13. Gabriele Silverhand Krakafjord Device, Resubmission

Per pale gules and vert, a hand and a chief argent, a semy of musical notes or

The submitter's previous device, Per pale gules and vert, semy of musical notes Or, a hand and a chief argent, was returned for the non-period depiction of the musical notes in the emblazon, and because the notes were too numerous.

No documentation of this depiction of a musical not is provided; however, the submitter is working from the following description: “A musical note is … commonly represented as a lozenge or an ovoid roundel with a vertical stem at one end.”

The submitter's name was registered in September 2003.


14. Gabriele Silverhand Krakafjord Badge, Resubmission

Per pale gules and vert, a treble clef argent

The submitter's previous badge, (Fieldless) A treble clef argent, was returned for being a solitary abstract symbol, based on the precedent “[Sable, a musical note argent] Current precedent disallows the registration of solitary abstract symbols. [Iohann se pipere, 07/00, R-Meridies]”. The current resubmission does not address this reason for return.

The submitter's name was registered in September 2003.


15. Grimwith, Shire of   Device, Resubmission

Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated sable and on a chief enarched gules three laurel wreaths Or

The submitter's previous device, Argent, a raven rising wings addorsed sable and on a chief enarched gules three laurel wreaths Or, was found to be in conflict with André du Corbeau, Argent, a raven rising sable, on a chief gules three pairs of arrows inverted in saltire argent. There was 1 CD for the cumulative changes to the tertiary changes on the chief, but no CD between a plain line chief and an enarched chief. The currently redesigned device addresses those issues.

In addition, no petition of support was received for the previous device. The current device does have a petition attached, signed by the seneschale, exchequer, minister of A&S, constable, chatelaine, herald, chirurgeon, chronicler, and master of sword. In addition, four other members of the group have signed the petition.


16. Guy Grimsson Grimwith Name and Device, Resubmission

Argent, a cross formy Latinate vert and on a chief enarched azure a hammer reversed Or

The submitter's prior name and device submission, Guy of the velvet hammer, and Argent a Latin cross formy vert, were withdrawn by the submitter.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about sound, desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for “born French Norman; raised Norwegian 10th-11th century”, and will allow a holding name.

Guy is being submitted under the mundane name allowance. A copy of the submitter's birth certificate documenting his given name as Guy was included. No documentation was provided for Grimsson.


17. Halla Hrafnsdottir Wealdsmere Name and Device, New

Argent, two panthers salient addorsed sable, a base urdy vert.

The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about sound, desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Halla can be found in Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, The Old Norse Name, page 10, s.n. Halla.

Hrafnsdottir can be found in Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, The Old Norse Name, s.n. Hrafn, page 11. The patronymic was formed from the directions found on page 17.


18. Johannes von Margarten Earnrokke Name, Resubmission to Laurel

The submitter's prior submission, Johannes von Thun, was returned for conflict with Johannes vom Turm in the August 2004 LoAR. His device was registered under the holding name “Johannes of Midhaven.”

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 12th-15th century, and will allow a holding name.

Johannes can be documented “from numerous town census lists and prison lists.” Copies of documentation were not included.

Margarten is a castle/stronghold in the Schwyz region of the Swiss Confederacy between 1291-1513. Copies of documentation were included.


19. Julilla Sempronia Cranehaven Name and Device, New

Gules, a ram couchant regardant Or

The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture (Roman), desires a feminine name, wants name changed to be authentic for Imperial Rome 150-225 AD, and will allow a holding name.

The submitter supports this given name construction with the following argument: “Grave stelae (funerary monuments) dating from 171-230 AD have been recovered from Narbonne in France and Spain bearing the name ‘Iulia Sempronia.’ It was not uncommon to form the feminine diminutive of such Roman names such as ‘Drusilla’ for ‘Drusa’ and ‘Julilla’ for ‘Julia’, and epigraphic evidence for the feminine name ‘Drusilla’, on a stela dated around 38 CE recovered from Tivoli bears this out.”

“Strictly speaking, in Republican times, all Roman women bore only the feminized version of their fathers ‘nomen’ or family name and the genitive form of their father's cognomen, as is the case of Julia Caesaris, daughter of Julius Caesar. In the principate, while it was still uncommon to find a women bearing the tria nomina, or three names, women could be found bearing nomen and cognomen, such as Livia Drusilla, wife of Imperator Augustus.”

As evidence of names that are diminutives, the submitter provides the following:
Iulia Procilla -- Tacitus, Agricola 4
Calvia Crispinilla -- Tacitus, Historia Vol 1, 73
Verulana gratilla -- Tacitus, Historia Vol III, 69
Drusilla - Tacitus, Historia Vol V, 9
Procilla, Fadilla -- ANTONINUS PIUS IULI CAPITOLINI, 1.1
Annia Rufilla -- Tacitus, Annals III, 36
Albucilla -- Tacitus, Annals, VI 6.47
Egnatia Maximilla, Artoria Flaccilla -- Tacitus Annals, XV 71
Liviam Drusillam -- Suetonius Divus Augustus, 62
Drusillam -- Sutonius Tiberius, 4; Livillae, 62

Sempronia is a Roman nomen. The submitter has provided the following examples and sources:
“Aulus Sempronius Atratinus, (444 BCE) Titus Livius (“Livy”) History of Rome, Book 4, Chapter 7; Book 6, Chapter 28
Caius Sempronius Gracchus, Titus Livius (“Livy”) History of Rome, Book 4, Chapters 37 and 41; Sallust The War with Jugurtha, 16
Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus, (163-133 BC) Titus Livius (“Livy”) History of Rome, Book 37; Polybius, Histories, Book 25
Ti. Sempronius Gracchus, (14-15 CE), Tacitus, The Annals, Book 1
Caius Sempronius Gracchus (23-28 CE) Tacitus, The Annals, 4, 13
Sempronius Densus, (109 CE), Tacitus, The Histories, Book 1, Ch 43
Sempronius Rufus, (97-109 CE), Pliny the Younger, Epistles, Books 4.22, 5.9
Sempronius Caelianus Sempronius Densus, (109 CE), Pliny the Younger, Epistles, Trajan to Pliny, 39
Sempronia, Sallust: The Conspiracy of Catiline, 25
P. Sallustius Sempronius Victor, governor of Sardinia (226 CE)
L. Sempronius Pitio. Denarius of 148 BC. Rome (in owner's collection).
Sempronius Asellio, historian, 200 BCE
P. Sempronius, praetor in Gaul, Livy History of Rome, Book 26.
C. Sempronius Blaesus, Tiberius Sempronius, Livy History of Rome, Book 26.2.”

The submitter also provides a tombstone rubbing found at http://www.roman-britain.org/places/ londinium.htm that reads “D M SEMPRONIO SEMPRONIANO CENTVRIONI LEG … VIX ANNOS LI ET FRATRIBVS SEMPRONIIS… ET SECVNDO LEIBERTI EIVS PATRONIS BENE MERENTIBVS POSVERNT.” Copies of documentation were not included.


20. Mughain inghean Donghaille Madrone Device, Resubmission

Argent, on a pale endorsed vert between two lilies purpure slipped and leaved vert, a rapier proper.

The submitter's previous device, Argent, on a pale endorsed vert between two lilies purpure slipped and leaved vert, a rapier proper, was returned for a redraw. The endorsements of the pale were too thin to be identifiable under RfS VII.7.a. This submission draws the endorsements thicker and further from the pale. The hilt of the rapier is argent but the basket, quillions and pommel are Or.

The submitter's name was registered in March 2004.


21. Ninian of Warwick Stromgard Device, Resubmission

Purpure, an owl Or within a bordure ermine

The submitter's previous device submission, Purpure, an owl Or a bordure argent, was returned at kingdom in July 2004 for conflict with Karl Teransson, Per bend sinister azure and gules, an owl close affronty Or and a bordure argent. There was 1 CD for the field, but no CD between close affronty and close to dexter. The resubmission creates a second CD by changing the tincture of the bordure.

The submitter's name is on the July 2004 LoI.


22. Richard mac Tighearnach Grimwithshire Name and Device, New

Argent, in pale an elephant passant sable and a tree eradicated proper within a bordure embattled sable

The submitter will accept any changes, does not indicate what he cares most about, desires a masculine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

The sole documentation provided by the submitter is that the name means Richard, son of Tighearnach.

The elephant is indeed contourny.


23. Ruaidhri Lámgel Krakafjord Device, Resubmission to Laurel

Per pale embattled gules and vert, an open book and a gauntlet aversant, a chief argent

The submitter's previous device, Per pale embattled gules and vert, an open book Or and a gauntlet aversant, a chief argent, was returned at Laurel in May 2004 for stylistic issues. The embattlements on the line of division were too small and numerous to be acceptable. The previous submission had 13 embattlements.

The open book is Or.

The submitter's name was registered in April 2003.


24. Sigelhundas, Shire of   Badge, New

(Fieldless) On a sun Or eclipsed azure, a talbot salient emerging from division line

The submitter's name was registered in June 1992.

The Talbot is argent


25. Swan the Red Glymm Mere Badge, New

(Fieldless) A Wake knot fesswise Or

The submitter's name was registered in September 1997.


26. Theocharista Irene Doukaina Crickstow-on-Sea Name, Change and Badge, New

(Fieldless) A bumblebee displayed per pall argent, gules and vert

The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture (Byzantine), desires a feminine name, and wants name changed to be authentic for Byzantine 976-1025, and will allow a holding name.

Theocharista can be found at http://www.sca.org/ heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/ early_byz_names.html. This name is dated to 6-7th centuries. The masculine form of the name, Theocharistos, continues in use by Theocharistos Marapas between 1070-1080 (http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/PBE/seals/ S5/485.htm). Copies of documentation were included.

Irene was a name borne by a Byzantine empress. The Columbia Encyclopedia (http://www.bartleby.com/ 65/ir/IreneByz.html) states that she was regent for her son from 780-790, became joint ruler with him in 792 and deposed him in 797. She was deposed in 802.

The submitter would like to retain her registered name, Ríoghnach of Ruantallan (registered June 1993) as an alternate name. She would also like the submitted badge to be associated with her alternate name.


27. Una of Grimwith Grimwithshire Name and Device, New

Per bend sinister wavy argent and sable, a bend sinister wavy between a horse rampant to sinister and a chalice counterchanged

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified), desires a feminine name, wants name changed to be authentic for unspecified language and culture, and will allow a holding name.

Una can be found in Mari Elsbeth nic Bryan's “Index of Irish Names - Feminine Names” at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Una.shtml. This web site dates Una to 1306-1589. Copies of documentation were not included.

Grimwith is the name of the incipient shire the submitter lives in. The branch name is in submission on the January 2005 An Tir LoI.


28. Uther Ainsheasccar Grimwithshire Name and Device, New

Per bend sinister sable and argent, a bend sinister Or between a moon in her plentitude and a bear rampant counterchanged

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for an unspecified language and culture, and will allow a holding name.

Uther can be found in Sir Thomas Mallory's Le Morte d'Arthur as the name of Arthur's father, Uther Pendragon. Copies of documentation were not included.

Ainsheasccar can be found in Mari Elsbeth nic Bryan's “Index of Names in Irish Annals” at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/. Ainsheasccar is given as a descriptive byname that means “Unquiet/Restless” dated to 1472. Copies of documentation were not included.


29. Yngvildr Ogursdottir Silverhart Name and Device, New

Azure, on a cross throughout argent, a trefoil vert, a border counterchanged

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture Viking/Norse, and will allow a holding name.

Yngvildr is a feminine name found in the Landnamabok (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/landnamabok.html) 20 times. Copies of documentation were included.

Ogurr is a masculine name found in the Landnamabok (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/landnamabok.html) once. Patronymics for women are formed by adding -dottir to the end of the father's name. Copies of documentation were not included.


30. Ysolt Tayler of Windhill Porte de l'Eau Name and Device, New

Argent, two chevronelles gules and in base a rose sable, a bordure sable

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about sound, desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a holding name.

Ysolt can be found in Withycombe, E.G., Oxford Dictionary of Christian Names, s.n. Isolde.

Tayler can be found in Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, s.n. Taylor.

Windhill can be found in Ekwall, Eilert, The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-names, s.n. WindHill.

The rose is slipped vert, seeded Or.



Looking forward to seeing your useful and insightful comments on these submissions, I remain,

In Service to Crown and Kingdom,

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