Baron David of Moffat, Lions Blood Herald
David Hunter of Montlaw
1703 Crosby Ct SW *
Tumwater, Washington 98512
360-705-0550 or
amoffatamoffat@juno.com
5 February 2005
Unto all the Good Heralds of An Tir does David of Moffat, Lions Blood Herald, send these
Greetings.
New Submissions on this letter will be considered at the Lions Blood Meeting to be held on
17 April 2005. Commentary on these submissions must be in my hands by 14 April 2005.
The February 2005 Lions Blood Meeting will be held on 20 February 2005. The meeting will be
held at my house, and consider the submissions on the December 2004 Internal Letter.
Directions to my house are:
Take your favor route to I-5. Travel I-5 to exit 104 (highway 101) in Olympia, Washington.
Take exit 104, and get into the rightmost lane as quickly as possible. Take the first exit
off of Highway 101, which is Cooper Point, Auto Mall, Evergreen Parkway, and Crosby Blvd.
At the top of the exit ramp, get into the center lane turning left over the freeway. Turn
left. Staying in this lane, go through three lights. You are now on Crosby Blvd. Stay on
this road until you reach Crosby Court, past the dead end sign. Turn right into Crosby Ct,
and turn left into the first driveway.
Letter of Acceptances & Returns
The following actions were taken on the Letter of Acceptances and Returns dated August 2004
from the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, and published in late January 2005:
ACCEPTANCES:
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Anastasia Daysshe. Device.
Purpure, a poodle passant within a bordure ermine.
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Arlindis o Gordon. Release of badge.
Quarterly sable and argent, four quatrefoil knots counterchanged.
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Caitrina inghean Aindriasa. Name and device.
Quarterly gules and sable, a winged fox sejant argent.
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Casse Tempeste le Wolf. Name and device.
Per pale azure and argent, a unicorn rampant to sinister counterchanged within a bordure semy of decrescents counterchanged.
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Cranehaven, College of. Branch name and device.
Per pale sable and gules, a crane argent and in chief two laurel wreaths Or.
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Druim Doineann, Shire of. Device.
Per chevron throughout sable and vert, three laurel wreaths argent.
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Elena Cordovera. Device.
Vert, a mullet of six points voided, in chief a roundel between a decrescent and an increscent argent.
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Gynna Viktorsdottir. Name.
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Johannes of Midhaven. Holding name and device.
Sable, a bend between a decrescent and an opinicus statant argent.
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Mary Webb. Name.
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Melpomene Sphakterie. Name and device.
Sable, an opinicus statant and on a chief argent three decrescents sable.
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Sadb ingen Tuathail. Name and device.
Or, a doe statant regardant gules within a bordure vert.
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Sonnet Manon. Badge.
(Fieldless) A triangle ployé voided and fleury at the points azure.
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Sonnet Manon. Badge.
(Fieldless) A triangle inverted ployé voided and fleury at the points argent.
Returns
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Johannes von Thun. Name.
Aural conflict with Johannes vom Turm, registered in June 1997. When
pronounced properly, the byname Thun sounds like “tune” — as in
“a song”. Furthermore, several commenters noted that the names looked very
similar. Several other potential aural conflicts were called against this name. However,
it does not conflict with John of Thame, John Thorn or
John Donne; there is enough difference in both sound and appearance to make
these clear. Nor does this conflict with the historical friend and patron of Mozart,
Johannes Thun, who is not important enough to protect.
His armory was registered under the holding name Johannes of Midhaven.
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Trystrem Irenfest de Cornwale. Name.
Returned for presumption against the Arthurian hero, Tristram of Cornwall.
Several of the commenters remarked that this name was a claim to be the legendary hero,
violating RfS VI.3,
“Names that unmistakably imply identity with or close relationship to a protected
person or literary character will generally not be registered.” Though this
submission is clear of conflict with the Arthurian hero by addition of the element
Irenfest, and we know of no evidence that the Arthurian hero Tristram was
ever called Irenfest, Tristram was a knight of the Round Table and the
descriptive byname Irenfest ‘iron fist’ is one that would be
appropriate for this knight. Therefore, this name, as a whole, is overly allusive of the
Arthurian hero and, therefore, presumptuous. Over alluding to a protected person in a
name has long been cause for return. We would drop the locative byname, leaving Trystrem
Irenfest, but the submitter would not accept major changes.
The following items were considered and acted upon at the Lions Blood meeting held 2 January
2005. This meeting was convened by special directive of Black Lion Principal Herald to
address the backlog resulting from my predecessor’s need to step down unexpectedly, and
considered both the August 2004 Internal Letter which had never been acted upon, and some 50
numbered items of materials never included in Internal Letters before the meeting. Because
of the nature of the need and life, these items were specially researched with the
assistance of most of Black Lions’ senior staff over the course of the last two weeks of
December.
My extreme thanks and appreciation go out to those members who provided commentary on the
massive backlog, and on the August 2004 Internal Letter that was also considered at the
January 2005 Lions Blood Meeting. This includes Frederic Black Lion, Christopher Queue
Forchee, Elisabeth Pomegranate, Zenobia Black Stag, Kateryn Be Wayre, Juliana Siren,
Gwenlian Sinister Gauntlet, Francesca Aestel, Aryanhwy Boke, Natasha Vox Leonis, Richenda
Boar, and Ursula St. Bunstable. If I have omitted any person who provided commentary on
these submissions, you have my profound apologies for my fault, and my thanks for your
commentary.
The following items were forwarded to Laurel Sovereign of Arms for consideration in the
January 2005 An Tir Internal Letter:
- 1.
Áedán mac Suibne Alternate name -
new
Khalid al-Nasiri
- 2.
Agnes Berengarii de Gerona Name change and device
change - new
Vert, five cauldrons in saltire Or.
- 3.
Alessandra da Montefeltro Name & device - new
Azure, a triquetra and a heart voided and interlaced and on a chief
Or an open book between two lozenges gules.
- 4.
Alessandra dei Medici Name - new.
- 5.
Alyne of Kendal Name & device - new
Azure, a doe springing contourny argent.
- 6.
Annaka Regina Poznanska Name and device - new
Azure, in bend sinister a sinister wing argent and a beehive Or.
- 7.
Annaka Regina Poznanska Badge - new
(Fieldless) An acorn slipped proper leaved gules.
- 8.
Anne Claxton Name - new.
- 9.
Arthus de Winterton Name - new.
- 10.
Beatrix Powson of Ravenstonedale Name & device -
new
Quarterly Or and sable a raven counterchanged and in sinister
chief an increscent argent
- 11.
Berik of Sugdak Change of holding name - Laurel.
- 12.
Cateryn M’Manis Name - new.
- 13.
Charles le Verdier Device - resubmission
Per fess argent and azure, a fess counterchanged in chief three
alder leaves bendwise Vert.
- 14.
Crínóc Dhonn Name & device - new
Argent, an owl affronty and an orle gules.
- 15.
Crínóc Dhonn Badge - new
(Fieldless) Three owls affronty conjoined in fess gules maintaining
a needle fesswise argent.
- 16.
Dalibor Křivoklātsky Name & device -
new
Vert, a boar rampant argent and on a chief embattled per
pale sable and argent two suns counterchanged.
- 17.
Denis de Loyer Badge - new
(Fieldless) A boar rampant to sinister Or.
- 18.
Donwenna la Mareschale Name change - new, from
Donwenna Beast Healer of Hawksheye
- 19.
Earnrokke, Shire of Branch name & device - new
Purpure, an eagle and on a natural mount argent a laurel wreath vert.
- 20.
Edward the Smith Name & device - new
Per chevron azure and gules, three anvils argent.
- 21.
Elise l'Éstrange Name & device - new
Azure, a mermaid proper crined Or maintaining in her dexter hand a
scimitar proper and in her sinister hand a gemstone gules and on a chief argent three
crescents gules.
- 22.
Elyne MacCrimmon MacLeod Name - new.
- 23.
Elsbeth de Shropshire Name & device - new
Per chevron purpure and azure, a chevron and in base a lozenge
ployé argent.
- 24.
Fionnghuala inghean mhic Oitir Device - new
Per saltire azure and purpure, a saltire interlaced with an annulet
Or.
- 25.
Giraldus Evienece Name change - new, from
Vincent of Hawksheye.
- 26.
Grimwithshire Branch name - new.
- 27.
Hallgrímr Úlfsson Name & device -
new
Gules, a valknut within a bordure argent.
- 28.
Isaac Wolfstan Name change - new, from
Bran Wolfstan
- 29.
Isabel de La Roche Name - new.
- 30.
James the Tormentor Device - new
Or, two pales sable overall a cross patonce in chief a pearled
coronet gules pearled argent.
- 31.
Juliana Felicita Boccaccio Device - new
Quarterly gules and azure, in pale two unicorn horns in saltire and
an open book Or.
- 32.
Lina Joya deGrantham Name & device - new
Gules, a needle bendwise between a tower and two fleurs-de-lis Or.
- 33.
Lions Gate, Barony of: Order of the Lion's Fang
Order name - new.
- 34.
Lions Gate, Barony of: Order of the Lion's Mark
Order name - new.
- 35.
Mary Webb Device - new
Sable, two lightning bolts argent and a base wavy barry wavy or and
vert.
- 36.
Meg Gwyneth Badge - new
(Fieldless) A cat's face purpure.
- 37.
Meheldis von Fulda Name & device - new
Per pale Or and sable, an eagle counterchanged and on a chief gules
two keys in saltire argent.
- 38.
Michael of Braghan Name & device - new
Azure, a bend beviled argent.
- 39.
Milisandia verch Madoc Name - new.
- 40.
Missa Hendrich Name & device - new
Azure a fret argent and in base a daisy proper.
- 41.
Morgina atte Wodelonde Name & device - new
Bendy sinister argent and sable, a baluster jug within a bordure
gules.
- 42.
Morin inghean ui Mhuirneachain Name - resubmission;
device - new
Vert, a trefoil and a bordure engrailed argent.
- 43.
Myrgan Wood, Barony of Badge - new
Argent, an elm tree eradicated proper leaved gules and on a chief
vert a rapier reversed argent.
For the champion of rapier.
- 44.
Myrgan Wood, Barony of Badge - new
Argent, an elm tree eradicated proper leaved gules and on a chief
vert a axe reversed argent.
For the champion of armoured combat.
- 45.
Myrgan Wood, Barony of Badge - new
Argent, an elm tree eradicated proper leaved gules and on a chief
vert a candle reversed argent.
For the champion of arts & sciences.
- 46.
Myrgan Wood, Barony of Badge - new
Argent, an elm tree eradicated proper leaved gules and on a chief
vert an arrow argent.
For the champion of missile combat.
- 47.
Quentin Martel Name - new.
- 48.
Ramsgaard, Shire of Badge - new.
Azure, a rams head cabossed Or and a bordure argent.
- 49.
Raven mac Uilliam mhic Fhearchair Name - new.
- 50.
Ravensley, Shire of Branch name & device - new
Or, a raven proper sustaining a key bendwise gules and on a chief
embattled gules two laurel wreaths Or.
- 51.
Rhuddglyn, Shire of Branch name & device - new
Per chevron inverted argent and gules, on a flame azure a flame Or
within a laurel wreath counterchanged.
- 52.
Robert O'More of Leix Name & device - new
Purpure, a raven displayed and on a chief Or three trefoils vert.
- 53.
Rosalinde McAllistair Name - new.
- 54.
Rowena Kyncade Device - new
Azure, in dexter chief a Thor's hammer and a sinister gore argent.
- 55.
Sarah Preston Name & device - new
Per fess azure and gules in pale a demi-sun throughout issuant from
the line of division and a unicorn rampant contourny Or.
- 56.
Serena Lyons Name & device - new
Per chevron argent and gules, three lions counterchanged.
- 57.
Seumas mac a'Phearsain Name & device - new
Vert, a bend embattled Or between a lion and two dolphins haurient argent.
- 58.
Stein Vikingsson Device - new.
Azure, on a chevron Or three triskeles azure and in base a coronet
within an annulet of chain Or.
- 59.
Sibylla de Bade Name - new.
- 60.
Tangwystl verch Glyn Name & device - new
Vert a cross between four crosses formy argent.
- 61.
Uilliam mac Fearchar mhic Gille Aindrias Name
change - new, from William MacAndrew of Balnagowan
- 62.
Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis Name
change - new; Badge - resubmission
(Fieldless) An anchor argent
enfiling a coronet bendwise sinister Or pearled gules.
- 63.
Ursula Georges Administrative - new.
- 64.
Wilhelm von Wittenberg Name & device - new
Lozengy Or and sable, on a chief enarched vert three chess rooks Or.
- 65.
Yrsa Ketilsdottir Name & device - new
Argent, a bend per bend indented throughout gules and sable cotised the upper sable and the lower gules.
The following items it was found necessary to return for further work.
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Anne Claxton Device
Per fess purpure and Or, a fess sable between a mazer Or and a
sprig of rosemary, a sprig of sage and a sprig of thyme in pile vert.
The first reason this had to be returned was found in Rules for Submission,
VIII.1.a. which provides
in relevant part “As another guideline, three or more types of charges should not
be used in the same group.” In this submission, the problematical charge group
is the group formed of the charges on either side of the fess. Since this group is
composed of a mazer, a sprig of rosemary, sprig of sage and a sprig of thyme, it is
composed of four types of charges, and runs afoul of this rule for submission.
The second reason which required return of this submission is what is commonly known as
“the sword and dagger rule.” The Laurel decision which recognized this
concept held “It is poor practice to use two similar but non-identical charges in
a single group. For example, using a sword and two poinards in a sheaf… has been cause
for return in the past.” In this case, the use of three types of herbiage which
are not identical runs afoul of this same principle, and is cause for the return of this
device.
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Arthur Greene of Deerhurst Badge
Vert, a stag’s head erased contourny Or.
This was found to be in conflict with the protected armory of the Canton of
Buckston-on-Eno (1989): Vert, a stag’s head couped and sinister
facing Or and a ford proper. There was only one difference for the removal of
the ford from Buckston-on-Eno’s badge.
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Cateryn M’Manis Device
Per saltire sable and argent, in pale a coronet and a sun Or and in
fess two roses gules slipped and leave vert.
Rule for Submission VIII.1.a.
provides in relevant part “As another guideline, three or more types of charges should
not be used in the same group.” In this case, there is only one charge group on the
field, and it is composed of three different types of charges: a crown, a sun, and a
rose.
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Çinara beguy urdina Badge
(Fieldless) a panther rampant argent spotted of various tinctures
and incensed proper.
This badge conflicts with the important non-SCA arms of Styria: Vert,
a panther rampant argent incensed proper. There is one CD for fieldless nature of
the badge. However, pursuant to the Letter of Acceptances and Returns (LoAR) dated
September 2001 and
April 2002 “spots of a
panther don't contribute to its tincture.” They're considered artistic details and
thus there's no tincture difference. While Styria's panther is a “continental”
or “German” panther (both from seeing many illustrations in period armorials,
and from the note in the Ordinary which states “The panther is drawn in the German
style”), and this badge is primarily the default English style panther (which is
more leonine, and guardant by default). However, it appears that there is no difference
given between these two styles of panther: “…nor can we see granting a CD between
continental and insular panthers” (
LoAR 3/94). Therefore, the only
CD was for the fieldless nature of the badge.
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Earnrokke, Shire of Badge
(Fieldless) an eagle’s head erased argent.
Under this blazon, this conflicts with Ironhawk Hawkcrest (1992):
Per pale vert and Or, a hawk's head erased argent. There is one difference for
the fieldless nature of Earnrokke’s badge, but nothing for the difference between a
hawk's head erased and an eagle's head erased. In addition, this badge is likely to be
in conflict with Frederick Tinamou the Untamed (1985): Azure, a
bald eagle's head and shoulders issuant from base argent holding in its beak a sword
inverted bendwise sable. While there is clearly one difference for Earnrokke’s
fieldlessness, there is no difference between a head and a head and shoulders, nothing
for the differences between issuant from base and not issuant, especially on a fieldless
badge which can't be issuant from base. There is POSSIBLY a second difference for the
sword, but given the conflict above, we are assuming this sword is not large enough to
be co-primary, and so is a conflict. Finally, this is in conflict with Elrhond Windrider
1977: Azure, a bald eagle's head erased, issuing flames from the
beak and the line of erasure, all proper. As with the prior two conflicts, there
is one difference for the field, but because a bald eagle’s head proper should be
primarily argent, there is nothing for the tincture of the head. While it is conceivable
that the flames on Elrhond’s armory are sufficiently prominent to be worth difference,
it is not likely to be the case, and given the other bases for return, we will return
this badge for this probable conflict as well. Finally, James Addison of Woolpit (1981):
Per bend azure and argent, in sinister chief a dove's head erased
argent. There is one difference for fieldlessness, but because a fieldless badge
does not have a field on which to place the charge, it gets no difference for changing
the relative position on the field (i.e. nothing for the "in sinister chief") While it
is possible that there may be a difference for dove's head vs. eagle's head, the college
of heralds doubts that this would be allowed.
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Elyne MacCrimmon MacLeod Device
Vert, on a tree Or a heart gules
This was found to be in conflict with the protected armory of Cherie Ruadh Mhic Rath of
Locksley (1987): Vert, on a tree eradicated argent a cat herisonny
guardant gules and Philip MhicRath of Locksley (1983): Vert,
on a tree eradicated argent a crescent gules. In both cases there is one
difference for the tincture of the tree but nothing for the changing the type only of
tertiary charge (cat, crescent or heart) on a non-voidable outlined charge such as a
tree.
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Greaghan McBayne Name & device
Per fess embattled argent and azure, in chief a raven migrant
sable.
It was found necessary to return the name because modification to the
name was required to make it probably registerable, but the significance of the changes
required were such that it was better to let the submitter make those decisions.
The device was returned for lack of a name.
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Grimwithshire Device
Argent, a raven rising wings addorsed sable and on a chief enarched
gules three laurel wreaths Or.
This is in conflict with the device of André
du Corbeau: Argent, a raven rising sable, on a chief gules three pairs
of arrows inverted in saltire argent. There is clearly one difference allowed
for the changes to the charges on the chief. Unfortunately, the Rules for Submission,
X.4.j., allows only one
difference for all the changes to the charges on a charge. This leaves only the
difference between the plain chief of André’s arms and the enarched chief of
Grimwith’s arms. A relevant precedent on the subject was set in 1988, where the Laurel
Sovereign of Arms made this ruling:
[a chief enarched] The arching here is virtually identical to that shown on
period renditions of a plain chief and adds almost no visual difference.
(LoAR March 1988). This was
expanded upon by Laurel in 1993, where he noted “from a visual perspective, single
arching has been used to give representation to the curvature of a shield.” With
these precedents, we could not find that a difference exists between these two chiefs,
and there is effectively no difference in the position of the raven to permit a
difference there.
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Isaac Wolfstan Device
Per pale azure and Or, a wolf rampant maintaining in his sinister
forepaw a shield argent and a dragon rampant contourny vert maintaining in his dexter
forepaw a sword sable.
The Rules for Submission (RfS) contain some restrictions
on designs in armory. One of the strongest principles in these rules is that
“Armory may not claim status that the submitter does not possess.” This
principle is further defined in
RfS XI.3, where the rule
states in relevant part:Armory that appears to marshall independent arms in
considered presumptuous.
Period marshalling combined two or more
separate designs to indicate descent from noble parents and claim to inheritance. Since
members of the Society are all required to earn their status on their own merits,
apparent claims to inherited status are presumptuous. Divisions commonly used for
marshalling, such as quarterly or per pale, may only be used in contexts that ensure
that marshalling is not suggested.b. Such fields may only be used when no
single portion of the field may appear to be an independent piece of armory.
No section of the field may contain … more than one charge unless those charges are part
of a group over the whole field. Charged sections must contain charges of the same type
to avoid the appearance of being different from each other.
Based on the
design of the device, the submission had to be returned for appearance of marshalling.
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Isabel de La Roche Device
Argent, a tower argent masoned and on a chief engrailed sable three
bees Or.
One of the controlling principles of heraldry in the Society is that
“all armory must have sufficient contract to allow each element of the design to
be clearly identified at a distance.”
(RfS VIII.2.) This is
further refined by noting that “the field must have good contrast with every charge
placed directly on it and with charges placed overall.”
(RfS VIII.2.b.)
Unfortunately, an argent field does not have good contrast with an argent charge. The
masoning, although extended up the outline of the tower, is insufficient to change this
status. The reason for this is that to be able to be treated as fimbriation, and thus
avoid the problem, the tower must meet the requirements for voiding and fimbriation.
These requirements are found in
(RfS VIII.3.), which
provides in relevant part “Voiding and fimbriation may only be used with simple
geometric charges placed in the center of the design.” This has been interpreted
as applying only to ordinaries and truly simple charges (roundels, some mullets, and
hearts). A tower does not meet this degree of simplicity, and thus cannot be fimbriated.
With this lack of contrast, it is necessary to return your device for further work.
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Kateryne O’Neile Name and device
Or, a dragon couchant sable and on a chief embattled azure two dogs
passant respectant argent.
This was returned for conflict with the previously
registered name Cathalan Ó Neill, registered in 1995. The rules for submission
for names provide that name phrases must differ singificantly in both sound and
appearance. Those who commented on the name did not feel that Cathalan and Kateryne
differed significantly, as required by the rule. Since O’Neile and Ó Neill do
not differ in either sound or appearance, they certainly conflict.
The device had to
be returned because no name existed to forward it under.
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Milisandia verch Madoc Device
Azure, a dove migrant argent and a chief raguly ermine.
Commenters noted two devices protected by the SCA which caused concern. Este, House of
(important non-SCA arms): Azure, an eagle displayed argent, crowned
Or. And Francesca of Bright Angel: Azure, a dove displayed,
head elevated argent. In both cases, there will be one difference for the
addition of the chief raguly ermine. However, because the SCA requires 2 differences to
be clear of already protected armory, the question remains whether there is a difference
between an eagle displayed, a dove displayed, and a dove migrant. The first relevant
prior decision by Laurel Sovereign noted, in discussing how to count difference between
birds,:The new solution to the problem is to sacrifice some of the theoretical
purity of separation of type and posture. Because only eagles among birds are attested as
displayed in period, any other bird in a displayed posture will be compared to any bird
in a displayed posture using the visual test of rule
X.4.e for non-period
charges. Thus there will not be a CD between an owl displayed and an eagle displayed,
because they are too visually similar, but there will be a CD between an owl displayed
and a penguin displayed, because there is still significant visual difference.
(January 2000 LoAR). Applying
this to this submission, because both doves and eagles are period charges, the SCA
college of arms will not allow a difference between a dove displayed and an eagle
displayed. This leaves open the question of whether a dove migrant, such as yours, gets
a difference from the eagle/dove displayed. A subsequent Laurel decision held:
“There is not a CD [difference] between generic birds displayed or migrant and an
eagle displayed...”
(February 2001 LoAR). As such,
in both cases, there is only one difference available for the chief raguly ermine, this
submission must be returned for conflict with these two devices.
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Quentin Martel Device
Gules, a pile indented Or between two dogs rampant argent.
Unfortunately, the College of Heralds of An Tir was uniform in finding that the pile as
drawn on this submission was so narrow as to blur the distinction between a pile indented
and a pale indented. The Rules for Submission,
VII.7.a. requires that an
element used in armory must be recognizable solely from their appearance. Since this
depiction blurs the distinction noted above, it did not fully satisfy the requirement of
RfS VII.7.a. and had to be returned.
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Raven mac Uilliam mhic Fhearchair Device
Per chevron sable and argent, two drums and a raven
counterchanged.
The College of Heralds found this device to be in conflict with
the previously protected armory of Marya Tatiana Zvesdina (2003): Per
chevron sable and argent, two mullets and a swan naiant counterchanged, and with
the armory of Damian Charles of Evotstarn (1994): Per chevron
throughout sable and argent, two pheons inverted and an owl counterchanged. The
rules for submission,
X.2., provides that
“simple armory does not conflict with other simple armory if the type of every
primary charge is substantially changed.” In these two cases, both pieces of armory
are simple armory, and so may qualify for application of this rule. While drums and
mullets are substantially different, swans (water birds), owls (raptors) and ravens
(“normal” birds) have been held to be significantly different, but not
substantially different. Therefore, these two pieces of armory do not qualify for X.2
difference. This means that the armory must be found to have two CDs in order to avoid
being in conflict. While
RfS X.4.e. allows a
difference for significantly changing the type of charges in a charge group, the fact
that the bird and mullets and bird and drums are in the same charge group means that the
changes to types of charges in these groups are entitled to only one CD. A second
possible source for difference is in the position of the birds. However, since both are
in a close position and facing the dexter side, they are not entitled to any differences
from the minor distinctions in their positions. This means that there is only one CD
between these two devices.
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Robert More of Leix Badge
(Fieldless) a raven displayed Or overall a trefoil vert.
There are two reasons which necessitate this return, both arising from the inclusion of
the overall trefoil charge. The first issue is that the trefoil in the design is
“barely overall.” By this I mean that the trefoil extends off the raven to
some degree, but not extensively. The second problem is that the SCA has determined that
for an overall charge to be used in a fieldless badge, one of the charges must be long
and skinny, and the area of overlap must be minimal. A relevant precedent on the issue
was set in the
September 1999 Letter of Acceptances
and Returns, where Laurel held:Tanglwyst de
Holloway. Badge. (Fieldless) A maple leaf purpure surmounted
by a lion couchant argent.The lion is not charged on the maple leaf
but is barely overall. Barely overall charges have been ruled unacceptable for a long
time and for fieldless badges overall charges must have very little overlap with the
charge it surmounts. Either way we must return this badge.
Since
this submission similarly had a barely overall charge, and an overall charge in a fieldless
badge that had significant overlap with the underlying charge, this submission also had to
be returned.
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Rosalinde McAllistair Device
Vert on a bend sinister argent a double rose gules barbed and seeded
proper.
This lovely design unfortunately conflicts with the protected armory of
Leslie the Brown (1986): Vert, on a bend sinister argent a Hermit
Thrush close proper (Hylocichla guttata). The only differences between these two
pieces of armory are the differences between the charge on the bend sinister. Rule for
Submission
X.4.j. allows only one
difference for all the cumulative changes to a tertiary charge group, such as is being
considered in this case.
A second conflict exists with the arms of Eibhlin Catriona
Moireabh: Per bend sinister vert and azure, on a bend sinister
argent a rose gules slipped and leaved vert, seeded argent. In this case there is
one difference for changing the color of half the field. However, because period heralds
did not see a difference between a rose and a rose slipped and leaved, the SCA does not
allow a difference between these two either, and thus there is only the single difference
for the change to the field.
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Wolfram Cordeau Device
Azure, a wolf and ram combattant argent maintaining a harp reversed
Or.
Unfortunately, this conflicts with the arms of Alair of the Blood Fountain
(1978): Azure a wolf and unicorn combattant argent. The Rules
for Submission allow one difference for the change of the unicorn to a ram. However,
while drawing the harp smaller was suggested in his prior return, by drawing smaller and
having the beasts continue to hold it, the charge becomes a maintained charge, which the
SCA does not allow to be counted for difference.
These submissions will be considered at the Lions Blood Meeting held 17 April 2005. Comments
on these submissions should be provided to Lions Blood Herald, at
amoffatamoffat@juno.com
on or before 14 April 2005.
1.
Alessandra da Montefeltro |
Aquaterra |
Badge, New |
|
(Fieldless) A heart voided and a triskele interlaced Or.
The submitter’s name is on the An Tir January 2005 LoI. |
2.
An Tir, Kingdom of, Ordo Equi |
An Tir |
Order Name, New |
The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about meaning (Order of the Horse),
does not care about the gender of the name, does not want name changed to be authentic,
and will allow a holding name.
Ordo can be found in Cassell’s New Latin Dictionary, s.n.
Ordo, page 416, as meaning: politically and socially, an order, rank, class:
senatorius, or amplissimus, the senatorial body, Cic.; equester, the body of knights,
Cic.; Liv.; in gen., a class, body of men: publicanorum, cic.
Equi can be found in Cassell’s New Latin Dictionary, s.n.
Equus, page 217, as meaning horse. Equi is the singular genitive form of equus.
|
3.
Armatus Kamateros |
Myrgan Wood |
Name and Device, New |
|
Azure, a cross of calvary potent argent, three mullets of eight
points in chief Or.
The submitter will not accept any changes, cares most about language/culture
(unspecified), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 10th
century Byzantine, and will allow a holding name.
Both the given name and byname can be found at
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/ introduction.html. |
4.
Armatus Kamateros |
Myrgan Wood |
Badge, New |
|
Azure, a cross potent argent within an annulet of six mullets of
eight points Or.
The submitter’s name is submitted above. |
5.
Ashley Little |
False Isle |
Name and Device, New |
|
Per pale Or and argent, a crow displayed head to sinister sable
sustaining in pale an annulet gules.
The submitter will not accept any changes, did not indicate what she cared most about,
desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a
holding name.
Ashley is the submitter’s legal given name. She has enclosed a copy of
her birth certificate as proof.
Little is documented from The Clan Little Web site
(
http://www.tartans.com/modules.php?op=modload &name=News&file=article&sid=228&mode=thread &order=0&thold=0).
The web site cites a Nicol Little from 1398, a Martin Litill from 1351, a Simon Litill
from 1426 and Clement and William Litil as involved in the University of Edinburgh
(founder of the library and provost, respectively) in the 16th century. Copies of
documentation were included. |
6.
Baltasar Cordero |
Fire Mountain Keep |
Name and Device, New |
|
Or a pheon inverted in bend sinister gules, on a border gules a
semi of boat shuttles Or.
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified),
desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for Iberian, and will
allow a holding name.
Baltasar can be found in Juliana de Luna’s Spanish Names from the
Late 15th Century, s.n. Baltasar, at
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/ MensGivenAlpha.html.
Cordero can be found in The Oxford Spanish Dictionary, s.n.
Cordero, page 192. The submitter argues this name is an occupational byname that means
“lamb.” Correspondence with Juliana Siren provides documentation from
Diez Melcon that this byname was in use in Spain in 1215 (Johan Cordero) and 1231
(Roy Cordero). She also notes that the word cordero continued in use in 1556. In
addition, the byname Cordero can be found in Patrick Hanks, A Dictionary of
Surnames, s.n. Cordero page 123, as a metronymic occupational byname for
shepherd.
Copies of all documentation were included. |
7.
Beatriz Tejedora |
Fire Mountain Keep |
Name and Device, New |
|
Gules, in pale a boat shuttle or, on a border or a semi of pheons
inverted to bend sinister gules.
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified),
desires a feminine name, wants name changed to be authentic for unspecified, and will
allow a holding name.
Beatriz can be found in Diego Mundoz’s A Partial List of Leonese
and Castilian Given Names 1050-1200, s.n. Beatriz, at
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/diego/reilly.html.
Tejedora can be found in The Oxford Spanish Dictionary, s.n.
Tejedor page 712. Tejedora is provided as the feminine form of the word tejedor. The
submitter argues that this is an occupational byname meaning weaver or knitter.
Correspondence with Juliana Siren indicates that Tejedor/a was in use between 1000
and 1600, and that the form Tejedor continued as an inherited surname into the
19th century. Dated forms provided by Siren include:
from Diez Melcon – Tejador 1275, texedor 1150, Textetor 1150; from CORDE
(http://www.rae.es) tejedora 16th century,
tejedor 1234.
Copies of documentation were included. |
8.
Branwen Miles |
Druim Doineann |
Name, New |
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified),
desires a feminine name, wants name changed to be authentic for Welsh, and will allow
a holding name.
Branwen is documented in Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn’s Problem
Names article at
http://www.medievalscotland.org/problem/names/branwen.shtml. The submitter
provides an additional citation from Mike Campbell at
http://www.behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=branwen. Copies of documentation
were not included.
The submitter’s maiden name is Miles (no evidence provided). |
9.
Brianna Wulfbeald |
Glymm Mere |
Device change, Resubmission in kingdom |
|
Per pale purpure and vert.
The submitter’s previous device change, Per saltire vert and sable
, was returned at kingdom in March 2004 for conflict with Rivka Vladimirovna
Rivkina, September 2000, Per pall Or, vert, and sable.
Brianna’s device change received 1 CD from the change of per pall to per saltire, but
did not change half the tincture of the field, thus missing a second CD. This new
design addresses those issues.
The submitter's name was registered in May 2003.
Disposition of former Device? |
10.
Crickstow-on-Sea, Port of |
Crickstow-on-Sea |
Device, New |
|
Or, on a pale between two laurel wreaths azure a beacon Or
enflamed proper.
A petition of support from the group has been signed by the seneschal, herald, deputy
seneschal, exchequer, and baron and baroness of Seagirt. In addition, four other
members have signed the petition.
The flame of the beacon is Or and gules, the Or primarily surrounded by the gules. |
11.
Ekarius Von Madgeburg |
Grimwith |
Name and Device, New |
|
Per pall inverted, gules, azure and sable:a wolf rampant to
dexter, a wolf rampant to sinister, a scallop shell and a pall inverted Or.
The submitter will not accept any changes, cares most about language/culture
(unspecified), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 16th
century German, and will allow a holding name.
The submitter provides no documentation of his desired name. |
12.
Fionnuala of Anglesey |
Glyn Dwfn |
Name and Device, New |
|
Per chevron sable and gules, two mullets argent, in base a swan
naiant wings elevate argent.
The submitter will accept any changes, does not indicate what she cares most about,
desires a feminine name, does not want name changed to be authentic, and will allow a
holding name.
The submitter has provided the following documentation:
Finnuala comes from an Irish legend “The Children of Lir.”
Anglesey is an island in Northern Wales. |
13.
Giovanni Orseolo |
Lions Gate |
Name and Device, New |
|
Argent, a thistle proper within two crocodiles tergiant in annulo
vert.
The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture
(unspecified), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for
unspecified time and place, and will allow a holding name.
Giovanni is documented from an Academy of St. Gabriel report (#2939,
found at http://www.s-gabriel.org). Giovanni
was a common Renaissance Florentine name found in Ferrante LaVolpe’s Men’s Names
from Florence, 1427
(
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto) and David Herlihy et al.
Florentine Renaissance Resources: Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532
(
http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte). Copies of the St. Gabriel report were
included.
Orseolo is documented from “Historical Profile on the Festa della Sensa”
The History of Venice
(
http://www.ryanair.com/dest/venice_tourism.html). Doge Pietro Orseolo is reported
to have left for Dalmatia on May 9, 1000. Copies of documentation were included. |
14.
Gwenlian Catharne |
Glymm Mere |
Badge, Resubmission |
|
(Fieldless) An awl argent.
The submitter’s previous badge submission, (Fieldless) a lozenge
sable, was returned at kingdom March 2004 for conflict with Solveig
Gunnadóttir ór Úlfey, April 1997, Per pale
Or and argent, a lozenge sable. There was 1 CD for the change to the field.
This resubmission is a complete redesign.
The submitter's name was registered in July 2002. |
15.
Isolda Throkmorton of Foxley |
Stromgard |
Name - new, Change from Isrið in glaða |
The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture (English),
desires a feminine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 14th century English,
and will allow a holding name.
Isolda can be found in Talan Gwynek’s Web site Feminine Given
Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames,
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/index_mid.html, to 1200, 1273,
1314-16, 1317,1346, 1379, 1430. Isolda can also be found in Mari neyn Bryan’s
Feminine Given Names Found in the 1332 Lay Subsidy Rolls for Lincolnshire,
England, at
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ mari/LincLSR/GivenFeminineAlpha.html.
Copies of documentation were not included.
Throkmorton can be found in Our Folk – Resource Materials:
Throckmorton at
http://www.aritek.com/hartgen/resources/throckmorton.htm. In addition, the Leeds
University Library provides online access to court rolls about the manor of
Throckmorton at
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ library/spcoll/handlists/100MS336Purvis.pdf. Copies of
documentation were not included.
Foxley is a town in Wiltshire dating back at least as far as 1334
(spelled as Foxlege), according to the St. John the Baptist, Foxley, Wiltshire Web
site (
http://www.oodwooc.co.uk/ph_foxley.htm). Copies of documentation were not
included.
The submitter would like to retain her registered name as an alternate name. |
16.
Lucrezia da Carrara |
Druim Doineann |
Name, Resubmission, and Device, New |
|
Argent, three dragonflies within an orle vert.
The submitter’s previous name submission, Lucrezia da Farrara
, was returned at Laurel in April 2004 for conflicting with Lucrezia Borgia,
Duchess of Ferrara. By longstanding precedent, the SCA does not register Name X of
Kingdom Y, when Name X is identical to one of the rulers of Kingdom Y. The Italian
city/states were ruled important enough to benefit from this precedent in April 2004.
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about meaning (Lucrezia from
Carrara Township), wants name changed to be authentic for 13th-15th century, and will
allow a holding name.
Lucrezia can be found at
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/rhian/italian.html. Copies of documentation were
not included.
Carrara is a town in modern Italy, located a few hundred miles from the
Mediterranean Sea and north of Massa. Copies of a Mapquest map demonstrating its
existence and location were included.
The dragonfly bodies and orle were initially tinctured as sable, but have been
overcolored by a green marker. |
17.
Marina la Pica |
Ravensley |
Device, New |
|
Purpure semy of quatrefoils Or, a jacculus displayed argent
langued and orbed vert.
The submitter’s name was registered in November 2000. |
18.
Patrekr Kórason |
Glymm Mere |
Device, Resubmission |
|
Per pale sable and gules, a plate between two snakes erect
glissant argent.
The submitters previous device, Per pale sable and gules, two
snakes erect glissant argent, was returned at Laurel in July 2004 for conflict
with Shire of Eikdal, Gules, two serpents erect glissant
respectant argent supporting in chief a laurel wreath Or. There was 1 CD for
the change to the field, but no CD for the removal of the maintained laurel wreath.
This redesign changes primary charges.
The submitter's name was registered in July 2004. |
19.
Robert of Clan Gunn |
Myrgan Wood |
Name and Device, New |
|
Argent vêtu ployé vert, a roundel gules.
The submitter will accept any changes, did not indicate what he cared most about,
desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for 16th century Scottish,
and will allow a holding name.
The submitter provided no documentation for his name beyond “Both parts of name
were found in the main ‘Name Book’ brought to the Kingdom Heraldic
Symposium held April 2004 in Myrgan Wood.”
The armory was colored in using light crayons so the vert is a pale green. |
20.
Tausius Valgas |
Wyewood |
Device, New |
|
Per chevron purpure and argent, in base a ragged staff sable.
The submitter’s name was registered in January 1994. |
21.
Tausius Valgas |
Wyewood |
Badge, New |
|
(Fieldless) A ragged staff sable.
The submitter’s name was registered in January 1994. |
22.
Tristan de Ver |
Wyewood |
Name and Device, New |
|
Per chevron sable and vert, a coney sejant guardant maintaining
a spear argent and in chief two fleur-de-lys Or.
The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture (unspecified),
desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for
14th century French, and will allow a holding name.
Tristan can be found in Albert Dauzat’s Dictionnaire Etymologique
des Noms de Famille et des Prénoms de France, s.n. Tristan. Tristan was
an old baptismal name that was found frequently in the late
13th century.
Ver can be found in Albert Dauzat, Dictionnaire Etymologique des
Noms de Famille et des Prénoms de France. Ver is a place in Calvados
and La Manche. |
23.
Uilliam mac Ailéne mhic Seamuis |
Seagirt |
Badge, New |
|
Argent within a bordure rayonny azure a ferryboat sable.
The submitter’s name change from William the Mariner is on the An Tir Letter of
Intent dated 21 January 2005. William the Mariner was registered in March 1987. |
24.
Vanyev Betzina |
Glyn Dwfn |
Name, Resubmission and Device, New |
|
Sable, on a bend sinister gules fimbriated Or between two
crosses barbed, three crosses barbed palewise argent.
The submitter’s previously submitted name, Vanya Betsina,
was returned in kingdom in Fall 2005, but the paperwork was misplaced during the
Lions Blood transition. Therefore, the reason for return is unclear. The submitter
would like for us to try to document Vanyev Betsina if possible.
The submitter will accept minor changes, cares most about language/culture
(Russian/Romany), desires a masculine name, wants name changed to be authentic for
16th-17th century Grastori/Lovari Romany/Russian, and will allow a holding name.
Vanya can be found in Tatiana Nikolaerna Tumanova’s The Complete
Russian Names Book, s.n. Vanya. No copy of this documentation was provided.
The submitter provides the following precedent as additional support for this name:
[Vanya Shakhmatnikov] Submitted as Vanya Shakhmatistov, Shakhmatistov was
glossed to mean the chessplayer. According to Escutcheon the submitted form is
probably out of period. More importantly he was able to provide us with a dated form,
used as a name, from his dictionary. We have made the necessary change. (Jaelle of
Armida, LoAR August 1998)
The submitter would like to use the Legal Name Allowance to register
his byname, Betzina. The submitter provided a photocopy of his driver
license as proof of his legal name. |
25.
Wenyeva atte grene |
Wyewood |
Badge, New |
|
(Fieldless) A ladder bendwise vert.
The submitter's name was registered in December 2002. |
I remain in Service to the Crown and Kingdom of An Tir,
David of Moffat Electrum and Lions Blood Herald |
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Uilliam mac Aillén vhic Séamus
Online IL Maintenance
uilliam@shaw.ca
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