Arms of the Kingdom of An Tir

The Heralds' Page

Newsletter of the College of Heralds of An Tir
Volume 2, Number 4 ~ September 29, 2003

Presenting...
The New Lions Blood Herald
and Boar Pursuivant!

Badge of the SCA College of Heralds

Table of Contents:


Greetings from Black Lion

Seal of Black Lion Principal Herald

Now that I have settled into the position of BL a little bit, I will now open up the Drop Dead Deputy position...

The position is a little amorphous, and not well defined but here are some of things I can think of...

Queue Forchee does not automatically become the next Black Lion at the end of the term, but is good training to do so.

Applications can be sent to: herald@antir.sca.org or herald@badger.cx or my mailing address from The Crier.

Please send me a short paragraph of introduction, SCA resume, and Modern Resume (if you have one, if not then just a general description of what you do mundanely)

Frederic Black Lion



Greetings from Morel Black Stag

Arms of Morel Black Stag

In the past 18 months a few branches have written to me with several device and badge ideas, and the odd name issue for their individual members. I've helped them as best as I could, and brought several items to the An Tir Heralds email list for style, construction, and conflict checks. Some items took a good deal of discussion on the list to work out the kinks. I'd like to thank you all for your wonderful help with these heraldic matters.

These branches had members who knew me, and knew to ask me for help. I'm fairly confident that all or most of Black Lion's deputies get asked for similar aid. But, I shudder to think of how many branches in An Tir don't have active book heralds and don't know who to turn to for help.

As requested in a previous Heralds' Page, if you know of any branches that are in need of help and you are unable to help them yourself, please pass on contact information to myself or another suitable College herald. We can't help them if we don't know who they are!

Yours in service,
Morel Black Stag



Ten Most Common Submission Packet Problems

  1. Using all capitals in either type of block printing. Is the submission for the name Duncan Macevoy or Duncan MacEvoy? Additionally ambiguous spacing can turn Mac Oirc into MacOirc. Use spaces and mixed case boldly to avoid unwanted changes because the College had to guess at a name's form.
  2. Incorrect or incomplete mailing address. Every form must have a complete mailing address with mundane name, street address, and postal code. Submitters will receive a letter in the mail explaining all heraldic results, but only if Lions Blood can find them. (Add to this problem moving without notification. It can take 2-3 months to track someone down if they've moved, in which time they do not get their due results.)
  3. Lack of signature. Submissions will be returned for lack of a signature. The College must be assured that the submission forms were reviewed and accepted by the submitter before being sent. The signature verifies this. Never sign nor allow a submitter to sign an incomplete submission form.
  4. Incorrect number of copies. Three. Three of everything; three line drawings, three color copies, three name forms, three copies of all documentation. If in doubt, include three copies, even if it's just a cover letter.
  5. Incorrectly written check. As of September 2003 the cost per action is $12 US or $16 CA and checks must be made payable to "College of Heralds, An Tir, SCA, Inc." This information is available on the An Tir heraldry webpage in the document "How to Fill Out An Tir Heraldic Submission Forms", which should also be in every herald's possession and copies handed out with submission forms. Incorrectly written checks will be returned.
  6. Incomplete documentation. When using sources found on Appendix H of the Administrative Handbook ("Sources Which Do Not Require Photocopies") the following information must be included:
    1. Name of source
    2. author of source
    3. header spelling entry was found under (page numbers are optional, header spellings are not)
    4. DATES of submitted spellings
    If a source does not appear on Appendix H (note no websites are listed) then copies must be included. Three copies. Copy title and copyright page of books and relevant pages, the whole web article (if impractical then all intro info and relevant pages) and use a highlighter so it's not a scavenger hunt for the relevant information. Lack of documentation can force a return, which isn't fair to a submitter when all the documentation is accessible. Cite all relevant information. Over-documentation is no problem, but lack of documentation can cause a return. ASK FOR HELP if you need cites and assistance in presenting documentation.
  7. Color issues. If color is not true, rubs off, changes, or is ambiguous, an armory submission can be returned. Pencil will wear off in normal file handing. Color computer ink is fugitive and even the 'guaranteed' colorfast stuff can change in the temperature changes and wear a set of forms goes through. Crayon is awful, it can melt off and even ruin several forms in the same file as the offending set. Use color-true watercolor markers. Crayola is the best and Pentel, Prang, and Colorific are all good, inexpensive options. Beware of pinkish purples, they only get worse with time (Color Gear/Rose Art purple turns magenta over time). Don't swear washable versus non-washable; they're supposed to wash off walls and skin, not porous paper. Washable marker is more reliable than color pencil. Avoid metallics as they either flake off leaving ambiguous color or catch the light oddly and appear dull black or brown rather than silver or gold. White is argent and yellow is Or and metallics are best for display rather than submission.
  8. Mismatched names on forms. The Society Name is the currently registered name or the name the submitter wishes to be registered. If an SCA name does not meet either of the aforementioned criteria, it should not appear on a submission form. Ignore titles, they change. Place the correct registered/wants to be registered name on the top line and assure that name submission and armory submission forms have the exact same name spelled the exact same way on them.
  9. Misspelled registered name. Look up an already registered SCA name and make sure it's correct on the forms. Yes, some submitters do not remember (or do not care to remember) how their name is officially spelled, but that is the spelling that is on all their records and files, so the College needs to have it correct. Watch for accents, they can be tricky to remember.
  10. Tape, glue, staples and correction fluid. These break down, crack, rust, flake, and otherwise cause havoc in the files. Cross out and write corrections beside old text. Copy the miniatures onto the submission forms, don't glue or tape them on - the glue or tape will fail and your miniature emblazon will be lost. Glued miniatures also peel off leaving glue behind which happily sticks forms together. Staples shred paper and damage forms, use paperclips or nothing at all. Lions Blood makes file folders, it'll all stay together.


Quick Charge Quiz Answers (from last month's Heralds' Page)

#1: antelope passant #2: barnacle #3: enfield rampant #4: water bouget #5: moorcock close
#6: clarion #7: swan rousant #8: fetterlock #9: opinicus statant #10: pomegranate


An Tir Internal Letter for September, AS XXXVIII / 2003 CE

Marya Kargashina
lions-blood@antir.sca.org
jacarlock@msn.com
September 29, 2003
Send thy comments here:
Jessica Smith-Carlock
6304 SE 90th
Portland, OR 97266-5214
503-772-0002

Commentary on this Letter will be due November 21, 2003.
(Send comments to Lions Blood Herald, information at top of this page)

The October Lions Blood meeting will be held on Sunday, October 26, at the home of Master Finngall McKettrick in Adiantum: 1524 City View St., Eugene OR 97402-3333, 541-485-1415.

Directions : From I-5 to Eugene take exit 194B (highway 105 west) which will turn into Jefferson St. Continue to W. 11th and turn right; proceed 5 lights to City View St. and turn left. House will be on the right hand side and is rose colored.

The November Lions Blood meeting will be held on Sunday, November 23, location TBA.



Change Of Commentary Due Date - October

Commentary on the August Internal Letter gets a one-week extension due to the change of meeting date. Commentary is due on October 24th.



Announcing Richenda Boar

It is our pleasure to announce the new Boar, Lady Richenda de Jardin. Although new to An Tir, Lady Richenda has a respectable heraldic history, having been a PaL in the kingdom of Æthelmearc for many years and also having been a senior herald at the Pennsic consulting table for the past few years. She is a member of the Academy of Saint Gabriel and is working on an article on French names, as well as being a fine armorist. There is probably much more to her experience that I am unaware of and therefore cannot mention here. An Tir is enriched by her presence and the College is pleased to have her join the ranks as Boar, creating the Internal Letter, and as a commenter.

Lady Richenda's email is richenda@stargate.net.



Arms of Teceangl Lions Blood

Greetings from Teceangl Lions Blood.

This is the last time I'll be using that title on an Internal Letter. After this I shall be Ounce Herald and still quite active in the An Tir College, as well as still commenting in the CoA. I have also arranged with Morel Black Stag to remain her deputy as editor of The Heralds' Page. My email address (tierna@agora.rdrop.com) is permanent and I can still be contacted through the information that should run for the final time in the October Crier. I will always be available as a consulting herald, teacher, and conflict checker. But I am looking forward to passing the torch of Lions Blood to the most competent Lady Marya, who has pursued the learning of this position for the entire year she has been Boar. She'll do a good job and should be as accessible as I have been.



Greetings from Marya Lions Blood.

I've been doing the Internal Letter as Boar for the past year. My contact information is at the top of this page and I will begin accepting submissions immediately. Feel free to contact me with any questions.


From the cover letter to the July 2003 LoAR:

From Wreath: Clarification and Explication of Some Rulings on Posture

First, a clarification of terms which appears to be necessary given recent commentary: when we speak, in general, of rulings on posture, these rulings are understood to apply both to postures for animate charges (like a lion rampant) and individual orientation of animate or inanimate charges (like a snail bendwise or a sword palewise). This usage follows the general definition in RfS X.4.h, which is called "Posture Changes" though its explanation explicitly addresses "changing the posture or individual orientation of charges."

The term posture may be used to refer to both inanimate and animate charges. It is idiomatically correct to say "the sword is in a palewise posture", and it is also correct to say "the lamb is in a passant posture." The term orientation is usually used to refer to the major orientations that are described as [ordinary]wise, as well as inverting charges (turning them upside down) or reversing them (turning them right to left). So it is also idiomatically correct to say that "the sword is in a palewise orientation."

Some questions have been received concerning some of the recent rulings on posture, particularly the rulings on the return of the joint badge of Brenna of Storvik and Gauss Magnússon in April 2003 and the device of Bran mac Conchobair in May 2003. We here hope to clarify these rulings and our current policies concerning posture.

We were faced with the need to make a large number of difficult rulings in late 2002 and early 2003 in which posture played a role. Each of these rulings hinged on whether two CDs should be given for a given charge group (for changing the type and posture of the charge group) or if only one CD should be given (for changing just the type of the charge group). The pertinent rule on posture changes, RfS X.4.h, reads:

Posture Changes - Significantly changing the posture or individual orientation of charges in any group placed directly on the field, including strewn charges or charges overall, is one clear difference.
Changing the posture of at least half of the charges in a group is one clear difference. Changing a sword fesswise to a sword palewise, or from a lion rampant to a lion passant, is one clear difference. Multiple changes to the posture or orientation of the same charges may not be counted separately, so a lion passant bendwise is one clear difference from a lion couchant to sinister. Changes of posture or orientation of separate charge groups may each be counted. A change of posture must affect the orientation of the charge, or significantly change its appearance. Changes in the position of the head, for instance, are not significant, nor is the change from statant to passant, which essentially moves only one leg. Changing from passant to couchant, however, visually removes the legs from the bottom of the charge and is considered significant.

All the rulings which we found to be difficult included a substantial change of type in the charge as well as a (possible) interpretation of a change in posture. RfS X.4.h is very good in explaining how to give difference between the posture of identical types of charge: the examples compare lions to lions, and swords to swords. RfS X.4.h is ominously silent on the matter of how to compare the posture of two very different types of charges: there are no examples which discuss how we might compare lions to swords.

While considering these difficult rulings, we found to our chagrin that past rulings on these issues and recent commentary on the pertinent submissions were often quite inconsistent from submission to submission, month to month, and commenter to commenter. It was also particularly difficult to refer to previous precedent. In cases where Laurel felt that there were obviously two CDs (for type and posture), the submission was often accepted without any discussion from Laurel. In cases where Laurel felt that there was obviously only one CD for changing the type of charge, the ruling would generally not refer to posture at all, but would simply mention that only the type of charge had changed. Neither of these types of ruling are generally incorporated into precedent, as they appear to be routine applications of the rules. Lastly, because the charge types were substantially different, this issue often was masked when the charges were primary and the armory was simple under RfS X.2, as the substantial difference in type alone would then be sufficient to remove conflict. The issue would only arise concerning secondary or tertiary charges, or in complicated armory which is often clear of conflict for other reasons. Despite these obstacles, we have attempted to codify a consistent - and usable - policy for future decisions.

It is generally agreed that certain very different types of charge do not have any sort of meaningful posture comparison. When two charges do not have a meaningful posture comparison, no posture difference is given between charges of these different types.

Animate and inanimate objects are not generally considered to have a meaningful posture comparison. When comparing lions with swords, we do not give posture difference between these charges - even when we compare the "sort of fesswise" lion passant to a sword palewise, or the "sort of palewise" lion rampant to a sword fesswise.

Very different sorts of compact inanimate charges - for example, pheons and crescents - are not generally considered to have a meaningful posture comparison. A pheon in its default posture has its shaft to chief, and a crescent in its default posture has its horns to chief. However, we do not give posture difference between a pheon and an increscent - even though that comparison could be viewed as changing the type of charge from pheon to crescent, and then rotating the crescent ninety degrees.

Some substantially different types of charge may be meaningfully compared for their overall orientation, but the inversion or reversing of the charge is not meaningful. This is generally agreed to be the case for inanimate objects which are not compact ("long skinny" objects). We would give a posture CD between an axe fesswise and an arrow bendwise, because the charge has had a major change to its overall orientation. However we would not give a posture CD between an axe fesswise and an arrow fesswise reversed because the overall orientation of the charge is the same (fesswise), even though the arrow is reversed. After all, in this comparison, the "pointy end" of each weapon is to dexter - but the arrow is reversed and the axe is not. It is hard to compare inversion or reversal for this sort of charge.

Different types of quadrupeds (which may also be winged) are generally agreed to have meaningful posture comparisons, even when there is substantial type difference between these quadrupeds. Griffins and wolves are compared with the standard quadruped posture comparisons. Therefore, a griffin passant has a CD for type and a CD for posture when compared to a wolf rampant.

The point where heralds start to disagree - and where past rulings cease to be consistent - is when the rulings compare animate charges which have very different sorts of overall anatomy and which have very different postures in general use. Quadrupeds (winged or not), animal or bird heads, birds, and insects all have very different sorts of anatomy from each other, and are found in markedly different sorts of postures. These posture comparisons have, so far, been ruled on in a fashion which is influenced by what the standard period (and SCA) postures are for the charges, but which does not seem clear enough to codify an ongoing SCA practice for such charges.

Let us consider, for example, a cat and a bee. Cats in the SCA are found in postures which face to dexter, to sinister, and affronty. The SCA gives difference between these three general orientations for all quadrupeds. Bees in period are invariably in the tergiant posture (which is not found for cats), but bees in the SCA are allowed to be postured as statant to dexter or to sinister - and when so postured, are given difference from bees tergiant. When comparing a cat sejant and a bee tergiant, should we consider them to have a posture change (from a profile orientation to an affronty orientation)? Most rulings have not given such a posture difference, but only type difference. Similarly, when comparing quadrupeds and birds in their very different postures, the rulings have generally not given difference for posture between a lion rampant and an eagle displayed, even though it is possible to interpret the changes to their postures as a shift from a profile orientation to an affronty orientation.

The change between full animal postures and animal head postures is particularly vexing. If we give a CD for posture change between a lion passant and a lion's head erased contourny (because the first is facing dexter, and the second is facing sinister), how should we give difference between a lion passant reguardant and a lion's head erased contourny (where both of the faces are looking to sinister, but the overall body posture of the lion is facing to dexter)? The answer is by no means intuitive, especially when one considers that RfS X.4.h does not give difference between a lion passant and a lion passant reguardant because, by the text of that rule, "changes in the position of the head, for instance, are not significant".

After consideration of the many cases on which we have had to rule (some of which, we admit, we handled without writing express precedents on the issue), we adopted the following policy: Quadrupeds, insects, birds, and heads do not have comparable postures, because of the very different sorts of postures these charges hold in heraldry. When two types of charge do not have comparable postures, we do not give posture difference between them. This lack of posture difference applies to all the possible postures the charges might take. Because a quadruped is not comparable to a insect, bird, or animal head, a lion rampant is given no posture difference from a bee tergiant, a raven close contourny, or a lion's head bendwise couped.

That being said, we continue to uphold the ruling by Elsbeth Laurel which noted that, even though two types of charge may not have comparable postures, two groups of charges may be comparable for purposes of determining whether the groups are facing in the same direction, or are respectant/addorsed. Please see the ruling on the device of Bran mac Conchobair in the May 2003 LoAR for more discussion of this issue. The short relevant excerpt from that ruling reads:

We do allow meaningful posture difference between groups of charges which would otherwise not have comparable postures when the following conditions apply: So, while it is is not possible to compare the posture of a bird and a cat, it is possible to compare the posture of two cats rampant addorsed versus two doves close, and see that the cats are facing in opposite directions and the doves are facing in the same direction.

From Pelican: Regarding SCA-Compatible Status of Forms of the Name "Megan"

Issues were raised this month regarding the SCA-compatible status of forms of the name Megan. There is a precedent that states:

There are some twenty Megans, Meghans, and Meggans already registered. As with Fiona and Corwin, I consider the name to be so much a part of SCA culture as to be acceptable, even if it is recent coinage. [BoE, 14 Apr 85, p.4]

There are two significant factors that come into play when judging whether or not a name should be considered SCA compatible: number of registrations and continual popularity. SCA-compatible names that fall out of popularity may have their SCA-compatible status discontinued.

There are several forms of Megan that need to be addressed. These are:

From Pelican: Regarding SCA-Compatible Status of the Name "Kendra"

The name Kendra was ruled SCA compatible:

Kendra long since joined the select list of names which, like Fiona and Gwyneth, have been deemed "compatible", although they cannot be documented in period. (LoAR 26 Apr 87, p. 6)

However, this name has not retained popularity. It has been registered a total of 16 times, with the last registration being in 1992. Given the lack of popularity of this name, we will discontinue registration of Kendra with the February 2004 decision meeting.


An Tir results from the LoAR dated June 2003 (see the LoAR for full text):

(typos might exist - only the LoAR itself is definitive; other than name, action and blazon, listings are paraphrased or abridged)

REGISTERED:

Cordelia Talbot. Name change from Elianor Talbot of Wynchestre.
Her previous name, Elianor Talbot of Wynchestre, is retained as an alternate name.
Elaine Madeline de Parfondeval. Device. Argent, an orle of ivy gules.
Gawain Ivarsson. Name and device. Per pale sable and Or, two pegasi combattant counterchanged.
Jessimond of Greencrosse. Name.
Katla in Rauðhára. Name change from Reginleif in Rauðhára.
Her previous name, Reginleif in Rauðhára, is released.
Meg Gwyneth. Name and device. Purpure, on a bend sinister wavy Or a triquetra palewise inverted sable.
Olcán Mac Meanma. Device. Gules, on a bend sable fimbriated between two wolves rampant an axe argent.
Teresa of Rosewood. Name.
Submitted as Treasa of Rosewood, no documentation was presented and none was found to support Treasa as a given name in period. As noted by Metron Ariston:
On the given name, one only need quote McMaster's article " Concerning the Names Teresa, Theresa, Tracy, and Treasa" at www.medievalscotland.org/problem/names/teresa.shtml: "Modern dictionaries of Irish names give Treasa and Toirésa as Irish equivalents of Theresa. No forms of the names Teresa or Tracy have been attested in medieval or renaissance Ireland. Treasa may be an attempt to adapt Tracy to Gaelic spelling. Both of these names appear to be modern inventions."
As the submitter allows any changes, we have changed the given name to the documented Teresa in order to register this name.
Violante de Myranda. Name and device. Per pale argent and purpure, three crescents counterchanged.

RETURNED:

Laurin of Rosewood. Badge. (Fieldless) On a rose argent barbed vert a cat sejant affronty sable.
Conflict with Rhys de Montfort, Vert, on a cinquefoil argent a pen fesswise sable. There is one CD for fieldlessness. Because there is no meaningful posture comparison between a cat and a pen, the only change to the group of charges on charges is the change of charge type. Because a rose is not a voidable charge, charges on a rose do not qualify for consideration under RfS X.4.j.ii. Changing the type only of tertiary charge is not worth difference under RfS X.4.j.i.
This does not conflict with the badge of Martin Luther, (Fieldless) A rose argent seeded of a heart gules charged with a Latin cross sable. There is one CD for fieldlessness. There is a second CD for changing the type and tincture of tertiary charge (from a black cat to a red heart). There is no additional difference for removal of the quaternary charge (the black cross on the red heart), as we do not give difference for addition, removal, or changes to quaternary charges.

An Tir results from the LoAR dated July 2003 (see the LoAR for full text):

(typos might exist - only the LoAR itself is definitive; other than name, action and blazon, listings are paraphrased or abridged)

REGISTERED:

Ærne Clover. Badge. (Fieldless) A four-leaved clover saltirewise slipped vert.
Antony de Sant. Name.
Elena Cordovera. Name.
Eva de Ramesgile. Name.
Gregorio Cristovalez de la Vega. Device. Or, five crosses of Santiago in saltire within an orle of ivy gules.
Lylie Sandra Fassone. Name .
Marya Kargashina. Name.
Michele Aquilani da Napoli. Name change from holding name Jason of An Tir.
Rowan Keele. Name.

RETURNED:

Eleanor Ashling. Name.
This name conflicts with Eleanor of Ashley (registered September 1983). The preposition of does not contribute to difference between the bynames Ashling and of Ashley. There is less than one syllable of difference between Ashley and Ashling, which is insufficient difference in sound.

This is from the Errata Letter include4d with the July 2003 LoAR and changes the LoAR dated January 1994
AN TIR
Aelfgifu Wolfsängerin. Release of badge. Vert, a wolf sejant ululant within a bordure argent.
The LoAR registered this as a device, but failed to release the identical badge.

RESULTS OF THE AUGUST LIONS BLOOD MEETING:

The following people were present at the August Lions Blood meeting or sent commentary: Annor Nordholt, Duncan MacDuff, Jasmine, Ciaran Goutte de Sang, Marya Boar, Francesca Testarossa dei Martini, Li Ban Tir Righ, Tadgg h-úa Faelan of Clan MacNessa, Earc Mountain Edge, Richenda de Jardin, Meadhbha Dragon's Mist, Teceangl Lions Blood, David Electrum, Natasha vox Leonis, Gwenlian Catharne, Tessella of Silvershadow, Knut, Emma Heraldshill, Wade of Many Places, Guillermo di Francesco and Aryanhwy merch Catmael.

The following names and armory have been sent to Laurel (August LoI) --

Aedan MacEwan change from Aedan Haukesblod Name, Change and Device, New
Vert, a tiger statant erect affronty Or marked sable within a bordure rayonny Or.
Aedan MacEwan alternate name Aedan the Silent Alternate Name, New
the Silent has been registered without comment as recently as 2001. We could find no precedents specifically on this byname, so it seems to have neither been accepted as SCA compatible nor disallowed. The earliest dated use of silent in the OED (online) is 1565 (spelled silente).
Cadoc Godeboldus Name and Device, New
Per bend sable and argent, a goblet Or and a sword gules.
Christopher MacEvinney Device, New
Vert a merman contourny reguardant proper tailed azure maintaining a horn in his dexter hand and a trident in his sinister hand, issuant from a base wavy Or.
Corwyn de Wemyss Device, Change
Per pale vert and azure, a Thor's hammer inverted and a bordure embattled Or.
Duncan Darroch Device, Resubmission
Argent, two compass stars in fess and on a point pointed ployČ vert a compass star argent.
Eden Kent Device, New
Per pale argent and gules, a radish gules leaved vert sustained by a bat-winged rabbit rampant Or all within a bordure sable.
Eden Kent Badge, New
Fieldless, a bat-winged rabbit contourny sustaining a radish leaved Or.
Geoffroi FitzGeorge Device, New
Argent a scorpion fesswise contourny gules a chief double enarched and on a point pointed sable a sheaf of arrows inverted Or.
Halldórr halfskeggr Name and Device, New
Vert, a sword inverted argent and flaunches Or each charged with a drinking horn sable.

Submitted as Haldorr the Halfbeard, the An Tir CoH changed the forename spelling to match the documentation and created the byname after consultation with the client indicated that he would like to have an entirely Norse name if possible.

Hans Durrmast Van der Wanderlust Badge, Resubmission
(Fieldless) A mullet of five greater and five lesser points within and conjoined to an annulet argent.

The submitter's name was registered in October 1987. His previous badge submission of the same blazon was returned from Laurel in December of 2002 for conflict with Alexandre sur la Mer: Azure, a compass rose argent. For this submission, a letter of permission to conflict from Alexandre sur la Mer is included.

Muriel Rose de Wessex Name and Device, New
Vert on a pale between two greyhounds rampant Or, three fleurs-de-lys azure.
Rowena Kyncade Name, New

Symmonne Deccarrette de Villete
change from Darbie of Ironmaid
Name & Device Change
Argent, two dragons combatant tails nowed to base in a Ormand knot breathing flames the dexter gules and the sinister sable and in chief a flame per pale gules and sable.

The submitter's current name was registered in November of 1992. Her alternate name, Symmonne Deccarette de Villete, was registered in January of 2003. Unfortunately, on the Letter of Intent Lions Blood managed to typo the only element that was documented in the submitted spelling. Villette is the submitted, correct spelling, matching the documentation from "French Names from Two Thirteenth Century Chronicles" by Arval Benicoeur and online at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/crusades/ (Note from web editor -- the original printed IL says http://www.s-gabrield.org/names/arval/crusades/ , but the correct URL is the one linked to here. - WaG) Copies of said article were included in her original submission packet, as well. She would like the spelling of her name corrected to the submitted spelling.

Her previous badge submission, Argent, a dragon gules and another sable combattant tails nowed in a Wake knot and in chief a goutte per pale wavy gules and sable, was returned from Laurel in January 2003 for unidentifiability of a goutte with a complex line of division as a secondary charge.

Her current device, Per pale sable and argent, two dragons statant erect respectant counterchanged breathing flames proper, a chief per pale ermine and counter-ermine, is to be retained as a badge upon registration of this change. Lions Blood specifically inquired if this submission would be permissible as a device change and was told that it would be. The submitter would really appreciate the term Ormand knot if possible.

To recap, because you really need a scorecard on this one:

  • Submitter would like her new primary SCA name to be Symmonne Deccarrette de Villette.
  • Submitter would like to retain Darbie of Ironmaid as her alternate name.
  • Submitter would like this armory submission to be her one registered device.
  • Submitter would like to retain her currently registered device as a badge.
Tacye Maple Device, New
Purpure, a catamount sejant guardant Or charged on the shoulder with an ermine spot sable and on a chief invected Or three maple leaves gules.
Wolfker Krieg von Lindenthal Name and Device, New
Per pale sable and argent, two wolves combatant counterchanged within an orle gules.

The following were returned for further work:

Rowena Kyncade Device, New
Azure, a Thor's hammer argent.

This is in conflict with Galen Brouwer: Purpure, a Thor's hammer argent.

NEW SUBMISSIONS:

1. Aine Paixdecoeur Aquaterra Name and Device, New

Or, a whale urinant contourney sable, between two bendlets wavy, between two roses in bendwise sinister vert seeded or.

The submitter accepts any changes, cares most about sound, and desires a feminine name. She will accept a holding name.

Aine is the submitter's legal middle name. A copy of her driver's license is enclosed.

Paixdecoeur is cited from Cateline de la Mor's "Sixteenth Century Norman Names," http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html. Copies of the website documentation were enclosed.

The submitter included documentation of the whale as a charge from James Parker, A Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry, sub Whale, on page 616.


2. Alastar Kirckpatrick Stromgard Name and Device, New

Azure estencelly argent, a wolf rampant Or.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about language/culture, desires a masculine name, and would like his name to be changed to be authentic for 1300-1500 Scottish. He will not allow the creation of a holding name.

Alastar is cited as a variant form of Alasdar in O'Corrain and Maguire, Irish Names under the header form of Alasdar.

Kirckpatrick is cited in George Black's Surnames of Scotland on page 407 (no header form given). Black dates the surname to 1191, 1194-1211, 1232 (as Kirkpatric), and 1523.


3. Berik of Sugdak Wealdsmere Name and Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Per pale sable and gules, a pale embattled counter embattled between two bear paw prints Or.

The submitter will accept minor changes only, cares most about sound, desires a masculine name, and would like his name changed to be authentic for an unspecified language/culture. He will allow the creation of a holding name. The submitter has indicated that he would not accept the dropping of the element of from his name.

The submitter's previous name, Berik of the Great Northern Horde, was returned at kingdom in July 2003 for a lack of documentation of the byname. Berik is the submitter's given name. His device was returned at the same time for multiple style problems as the lightning bolt effectively acted as field division fimbriation, the low contrast line of division was obscured by the charge and for the use of the lightning bolt and pawprints, which are each a weirdness thus giving the device two weirdnesses. The redesign addresses these issues.

Berik is the submitter's legal given name. A copy of his driver's license is enclosed. Berik is also cited from Otto Maenchen-Helfen's The World of the Huns, page 406, as meaning strong. Copies of the documentation were enclosed.

Sugdak is cited from William McGovern's The Early Empires of Central Asia. Mentions of the Sugdak region occur on page 386. Copies of the documentation were enclosed.


4. Bran mac Conchobair Wyewood Device, Resubmission to Laurel

Argent, a bend sinister cotised azure between two ravens sable.

The submitter's name was registered in May 2003. The submitter's previous device, Argent, a bend sinister between two ravens sable, was returned from Laurel for conflict with Malleta MacKessock, Argent, a bend sinister azure between a rose barbed and seeded proper and a natural panther rampant to sinister sable. There was only 1 CD for the change of type of the secondary charges. The addition of the cotises clears this conflict.


5. Danescombe, Shire of
Device, New

Per chevron argent and Or, a yale rampant, in base a laurel wreath gules.

A copy of the petition is enclosed, which is signed by the seneschal and ten other members. The shire's name was registered in February 2002.


6. Durant Ramberti Caiaphas Aquaterra Name and Device, New

Purpure, a phoenix in chief a chalice in a border rayonny argent.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about meaning (Durant = enduring), and desires a masculine name. The submitter will accept a holding name.

Durant is cited as a surname on the following websites (copies included): "The Durante Project", http://www.duranteproject.com/content/main.htm (Note from the web editor: the original printed IL reads "main.html" -- this is incorrect. -- WaG) lists Francesco Durante, an early to mid to 18th century composer.

"Index des noms commençant par D", http://www.lpmc.ens.fr/~boyer/basetarn/idx440.htm, lists Gauside Durant (1595  Sept 03, 1652), Jaques Durant (1576-nd),

"Direct Descendant Line", http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Orchard/3217/surnames.html, lists Durant as a surname in Cornwall, England in 1525-1575

Durante is cited as a given name in Aryanhwy merch Catmael's "Italian Given Names from the Online Tratte Office Holders 1282-1532", http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedmann/names/florence1282-1532.htm under the heading 15-19. Copies are included. (Note from the web editor: this page seems to no longer exist, but can be found instead at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/florence1282-1532.html. - WaG)

Ramberti is cited as a surname on the following websites (copies included): "Renouard Number Index to the Ahmanson-Murphy Aldine Collection", http://www.library.ucla.edu/libraries/special/scweb/rendex.htm under 117:1, 1539, Ramberti, Benedetto, 1503-1546. (Web editor note -- fixed typo in this URL.)

"FOCA" http://6.1911encyclopedia.org/F/FO/FOCA.htm indicates that Benedetto Ramberti was an ambassador from Venice to the Porte in the 16th century.

"Bell Catalog  Rs", http://bell.lib.umn.edu/cat/bib_r.html, is a bibliographic citation for Benedetto Ramberti, 1503-1546.

Caiaphas is cited as a name on the following websites (copies included): "Initial D: Christ before Caiaphas; Initial D: The Virgin Mary with Apostles", http://www.getty.edu/art/collections/objects/o3626.html, depicts the scene of Christ being tried by Caiaphas for blasphemy.

"Caiaphas", http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/caiaphas.html, and "Caiaphas the High Priest", http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a026.html, are bibliographic references to Caiaphas (A.D. 27-36) and his role in Christ's trial.

"The Upper City", http://www.cptryon.org/xpipassio/passio/arch/4upcity.html, cites the name Caiaphas from several books of the Bible and mentions the "house of Caiaphas" as a location within the city.

"Burial Box of James Found", http://www.chalcedon.edu/articles/0210/021022ossurary.shtml, mentions the ossuary of Caiaphas, who turned Jesus over to the Romans and that his tomb was discovered in 1990. (Web editor note -- fixed typo in this URL.)

"Biblical Archaeology Review Archives September/October 2001", http://www.bib- arch.org/bswb_BAR/bsba2806kprdg2.html, discusses the findings of the Caiaphas ossuaries and the historical role Caiaphas played in the Bible.

"Biblical Archaeology Review Archives April 2000", http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_BAR/bsba2806kprdg1.html, mentions "Ananus II (son of Annas and brother-in-law to Caiaphas)"


7. Geoffrey MacLean Lions Gate Name and Device, New

Vert, a bend sinister embattled argent, a bendlet sinister sable.

The submitter will not accept any changes, desires a masculine name, and would like his name to be authentic for the 14th-15th century. The submitter will accept a holding name.

Geoffrey is cited as the given name of Geoffrey Chaucer, ca 1333-1400 AD. No documentation was provided.

MacLean is cited as originating with the marriage of Lachlan Lubanach to Mary MacDonald, daughter to the Lord of the Isles in 1366 AD. No documentation was provided.


8. Giovanna Vernaccia Wyewood Name, New

The submitter will accept all changes, cares most about the language/culture, desires a female name, and would like to have her name changed to be authentic for late 15th century Florence Italy.

Giovanna is cited in the "Florentine Renaissance Resources: Online Catasto of 1427", http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/catasto/first_names.html under Giovanna. (Web editor note: the correct URL is actually http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/catasto/newsearch/first_names.html. -- WaG) Documentation of a portrait of Giovanna Tornabuoni, done in 1488 by Ghirlandaio, is provided http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/g/ghirland/domenico/7panel/07tornab.html. A copy of the St. Gabriel report on Giovanna (#2468), written by Aryanhwy merch Catmael at http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2468+0 states that Giovanna was a common woman's name in Florence. Copies of all documentation were included. (Web editor note: URL corrected. -- WaG)

Vernaccia is cited in the "Florentine Renaissance Resources Online Catasto of 1427", http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/catasto/family_names.html under Vernaccia. Copies of this were included. (Web editor note: the correct URL is actually http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/catasto/newsearch/family_names.html. -- WaG)


9. Grímr Magnússon Aquaterra Name and Device, New

Azure, a bear sejant and on a chive argent, three flames gules.

The submitter will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture (Norse), desires a masculine name. The submitter will accept a holding name.

Grímr is cited from Geirr Bassi Haraldsson's Old Norse Name, on page 10.

Magnús is cited from Geirr Bassi Haraldsson's Old Norse Name, on page 13. A discussion of the formation of the patronymic by name is found on page 17. No mention of the -nús ending was made, so the usual -son suffix was used.


10. Jebe of Sugdak Wealdsmere Name and Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Or, a cross of Calatrava gules within an orle of lozenges points to center sable.

The submitter will not accept major changes, cares most about language/culture, desires a male name, and would like his name changed to be authentic for an unspecified language/culture. The submitter will accept a holding name. The submitter has indicated that he would not accept the dropping of the element of from his name.

The submitter's previous name, Jebe Yakskull, was returned in kingdom in July 2003 for lack of documentation of the byname. His previous device was returned at the same time for lack of a name with which to send it to Laurel.

Jebe is cited in James Chamber's The Devil's Horsemen, on page 8. This citation is a discussion of the legendary hero Jebe Noyan. Copies of the documentation were enclosed.

Sugdak is cited from William McGovern's The Early Empires of Central Asia. Mentions of the Sugdak region occur on page 386. Copies of the documentation were enclosed.


11. Kateline MacFarlane Three Mountains Badge, Release

(Fieldless) A throne argent, seat and back cushioned azure, thereon a skull argent.

The submitter's name was registered in August 1991.

The submitter would like to release this badge.


12. Madrun verch Trahaearn Madrone Name and Device, New

Or, a fess dancetty vert, an urchin rampant gules.

The submitter will accept all changes, cares most about language/culture, desires a female name, and is interested in having her name changed to be authentic for 13th century Welsh. She will accept a holding name.

Madrun is cited from Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn's "A Simple Guide to Contructing 13th Century Welsh Names", http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/welsh13.html in the women's names section.

Trahaern is cited from Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn's "A Simple Guide to Contructing 13th Century Welsh Names", http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/welsh13.html in the men's names section. A discussion of the formation of patronymic bynames appears in the Bynames Based on Relationship section.


13. Marguerite de Moseleia Three Mountains Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Or, a lion rampant gules grasping in dexter forepaw a sheaf of arrows inverted and on a chief sable three crosses couped Or.

The submitter's name was registered in May 2003. The submitter's previous device was returned at kingdom in June because:

"The forms were badly copied with one entire side of the shield simply not there. This caused great imbalance in the placement of her crosses on the chief. Altered forms are not accepted by Laurel, therefore this device had to be returned for a redraw on the correct forms, which Lions Blood supplied with the letter of return notification."

The resubmission has addressed this issue. Lions Blood reminds the College that forms will be mailed to heralds and submitters upon request if needed, anytime. Don't guess on a form's acceptability, if there is doubt ask for a good set.


14. Marie Chantes Aquaterra Device, New

Per fess engrailed gules and sable, three roses in bend sinister Or barbed vert seeded gules.

The submitter's name was registered in March 2003.


15. Mikael Drakelawe Aquaterra Device, New

Argent, a bend engrailed gules, overall a dragon segreant and a bordure sable.

The submitter's name was registered in March 2003.


16. Morgaine Somerset Aquaterra Device, Resubmission to Kingdom

Gules, on a chevron sable fimbriated three St. Brigid crosses argent.

The submitter's name was registered in June 2001.

The submitter's previous device, Per pale gules and sable, a cross of St. Brigid argent, was returned at kingdom in November 2002 for conflict with the Barony of the Angels, Per pale gules and sable, a celtic cross hummety formy argent. There is only one CD for changing the type of the cross. It was also in conflict with Switzerland: Gules, a cross couped argent, and Greece: Azure, a cross couped argent. In each case a CD exists from changes made to the field tincture (or half thereof), but a cross of St. Brigid is an SCA invention differing from a cross couped by the most minor details and should not get a CD.

The redesign has addressed these issues.


17. Mughain Brecc inghean Donnghaile Madrone Name and Device, New

Argent, on a pale endorsed vert between two lilies purpure slipped and leaved vert, a rapier proper.

The submitter will accept all changes, cares more about sound, desires a female name, and would like her name changed to be authentic for 14th-16th century Irish. The submitter will accept a holding name.

Mughain is cited as a later period form of Mugain in O'Corraign and Maguire's Irish Names, no page or header form listed. Mugain is cited in "Feminine Names from the Index to O'Brien's Corpus Geaealogiarium Hiberniae" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasfryn, http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/irish-obrien.html.

Brecc is cited as meaning "freckled" in "Feminine Names from the Index to O'Brien's Corpus Geaealogiarium Hiberniae" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasfryn, http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/irish-obrien.html.

Donnghaile is not documented.


18. Muireann O'Muirnea_áin Three Mountains Name, New

The submitter will accept all changes, cares most about sound, desires a female name, and would like her name to be changed to be authentic for the Irish culture.

Muireann is cited from Rev. Patrick Woulfe's Sloinnte Gaed is Gall (Irish Names and Surnames), as the header spelling in the women's given names section.

Ó Muirnea_áin is cited from Rev. Patrick Woulfe's Sloinnte Gaed is Gall (Irish Names and Surnames), under the header spelling of Ó Muirneacain in the given names section.

(Added by web editor: the letter where the underscore is here is a c with a dot on top)


19. Rand Hawkyns Madrone (?) Device, Change

Checky Sable and argent, on a pile azure a chess rook argent.

The submitter's name was registered in November 1996.

If this device passes, the submitter would like to release his old device, Per fess azure and checky sable and Or, in chief a chess rook argent, registered November 1996.


20. Raphaella di Contini Aquaterra Name and Device, New

Argent, a garb of peacock feathers proper, on a chief sable two rapiers in saltire proper.

The submitter will accept any changed, desires a female name, and would like her name changed to be authentic for mid-1400 to late 1500 Venice. She will accept a holding name.

Raffaella is cited from Emidio de Felice Dizionario dei Nomi Italiani on page 311. The surname form in Nomi is Raffaeli, found on page 205, which shows the root name Rafaella is found in period to spawn the surname. Rafael is given as the exclusively Jewish form from Sephardic families. Copies of this documentation were not included with the submission.

Contin is cited from Emidio de Felice Dizionario dei Cognomi Italiani under the header form of Conti on page 107. Cogdoni is the Venetian form, per personal communication with Dame Zenobia Napthali (copy not included).


21. Richard Thomas Madrone Name and Device, New

Argent, two rapiers in saltire sable overall a rose purpure, on a chief sable two otters passant respectant Or.

The submitter will accept all changes, cares most about language/culture, desires a male name, and would like his name to be changed to be authentic for 15th-16th century English.

Richard is documented from Julian Goodwyn "English Names from Pre-1600 Brass Inscriptions" at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/men.html under the heading Male Given Names.

Thomas is documented from Julian Goodwyn "English Names from Pre-1600 Brass Inscriptions" at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/lastnameTZ.html under the heading T.

The rose in the emblazon is seeded gules and barbed vert.


22. Stromgard, Barony of
Badge, New

(Fieldless) A trident gules.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. This badge is intended as a populace badge. The form is signed by the Baron.


23. Stromgard, Barony of, for Red Trident Pursuivant
Heraldic Title, New

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. No documentation was provided for this heraldic title.


24. Stromgard, Barony of
Badge, New

(Fieldless) A seahorse gules charged on the should with an escutcheon argent.

This badge is intended as a sergeantry badge.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The form is signed by the Baron.


25. Stromgard, Barony of
Badge, New

(Fieldless) A horseshoe inverted argent.

This badge is intended to be used as the baron's favor.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The form is signed by the Baron.


26. Stromgard, Barony of, for Ordo Musarum
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) A gem ring argent gemmed gules.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (Muses), and would like the name changed to be authentic for Latin. The form is signed by the Baron.

Musarum is documented as following the pattern of naming orders after a group, such as Order of the Seraphim, from Meradudd Cethin "Project Ordensnamen OR What do you mean that the Ancient and Venerable Order of the Most Holy and Righteous Wombat's Toenail isn't period?" online at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/Alpha.htm.


27. Stromgard, Barony of, for Ordo Primarius Hippocampus
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldess) A hippocampus within and conjoined to an annulet engrailed on the inner edge argent.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (Primary Hippocampus), and would like the name changed to be authentic for Latin. The form is signed by the Baron.

Primarius Hippocampus is documented as following the pattern of naming orders by descriptive adjective and noun, such as Order of Glorious St. Mary (dated 1261) from Meradudd Cethin "Project Ordensnamen OR What do you mean that the Ancient and Venerable Order of the Most Holy and Righteous Wombat's Toenail isn't period?" http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/Alpha.htm.

As no blazon was provided on the form, and the badge is fieldless, the tinctures are assumed to be argent. (Yes, they are. - Teceangl)


28. Stromgard, Barony of, for Order of the Seamair
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) Saltirewise, a four-leafed clover slipped Or.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, and cares most about meaning (Shamrock). This order and badge will be used for the baroness' favor. The form is signed by the Baron.

No documentation was provided for this order name. They believe the word seamair is Gaelic for shamrock.


29. Stromgard, Barony of, for Order of the Bell and Chain
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) A chain in chevron inverted conjoined in pale with a hawk's bell Or.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, and cares most about meaning (Bell and Chain). The form is signed by the Baron.

Bell and Chain is documented as following the pattern of naming orders by using two conceptually-related items, such as Order of Ship and Crescent (dated 1262) and Order of the Ship and Shell (dated 1268) from Meradudd Cethin "Project Ordensnamen OR What do you mean that the Ancient and Venerable Order of the Most Holy and Righteous Wombat's Toenail isn't period?" http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/Alpha.htm.


30. Stromgard, Barony of, for Ordo Famulus Primarius
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) A pearl between and sustained by two hands argent.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (Primary or Honored Servant), and would like the name changed to be authentic for Latin. The form is signed by the Baron.

Famulus Primarius is documented as following the pattern of naming orders by descriptive adjective group and noun, such as Order of Poor Soldiers of Christ (dated 1119) from Meradudd Cethin "Project Ordensnamen OR What do you mean that the Ancient and Venerable Order of the Most Holy and Righteous Wombat's Toenail isn't period?" http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/Alpha.htm.


31. Stromgard, Barony of, for Order of the Silver Sea Urchin
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) A seaurchin argent.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, and cares most about meaning (Sea Urchin). The form is signed by the Baron.

No documentation was provided for this order name.


32. Stromgard, Barony of, for Order of the Silver Seastar
Order Name and Badge, New

(Fieldless) An estoile within and conjoined to an annulet engrailed on the inner edge argent.

The submitting branch's name was registered in June 1982. The submitting branch will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (Sea Star/Starfish), and would like the name changed to be authentic for Latin. The form is signed by the Baron.

Silver Seastar is documented as following the pattern of naming orders by descriptive adjective and noun, such as Order of the Golden Fleece, the Order of the Star, and the order of the Golden Rose, all cited in RFS III.2.b.ii.


33. Titus Antonius Archelaus Three Mountains Badge, Release

Gules, in pale a skull and a throne argent cushioned azure within a bordure argent.

The submitter's name was registered in January 1994.

The submitter would like to release this badge.


34. Urs von Eulenburg Lionsdale Name and Device, New

Argent, a talon winged sable, a chief embattled gules

The submitter will accept all changes, desires a masculine name, and would like his name changed to be authentic for 16th century Landsknecht. The submitter will accept a holding name.

Urs was cited from Julie Adams "Gerry and Julie's Landsknecht Site: Renaissance German Names" with no URL given. This name appears to have been placed under the section of Women's Given Names. Copies of the documentation were provided.

von Eulenburg was cited from Julie Adams "Gerry and Julie's Landsknecht Site: Renaissance German Names" with no URL given under the section of Last Names. Copies of the documentation were provided.


35. Y_sm_n bint al'-Id bint al-Susa Dun an Chailaidh Name and Device, New

Vert, a fork and spoon in fess, on a bordure argent semi of mushrooms azure.

The submitter will allow any changes, cares most about sound, and desires a female name. The submitter will accept a holding name. This submitter is Lady Alida, of the Golde Lemon, so the elements Yasmin and anything sounding like Alida are important to her, however she is absolutely not picky about it and simply wishes a documented name.

Y_sm_n is cited on page 44 of Annemarie Schimmel, Islamic Names. The citations are not dated. Copies of this documentation are in process.

al'Id is cited from Juliana de Luna's "Arabic Naming Practices and Period Names" at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming.html.

al-Susa is undocumented. The submitter asks the College of Heralds' help documenting Susa as a period place and for the changes necessary to render it a name element.



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