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The Heralds' Page
Newsletter of the College of Heralds of An Tir Volume 1, Number 2 ~ 29 July 2002 |
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1. Receipts If you expect to be reimbursed from the College of Heralds, you need to get your receipts in as soon as you possibly can after getting them yourself. Procrastination on this issue is VERY dangerous, and may result in you not getting your funds in a timely manner.2.Reporting Schedule The reporting schedule is now January, April, July, and October. Kingdom heraldic offices are expected to report on these dates and failure to do so may result in the removal of that officer’s position. Please make sure you report on time.3.Open offices
The college of heralds will be creating its own Administrative Handbook. This handbook will spell out the duties of each heraldic office so that the populace might know their responsibilities. This will be a collaborative effort across the entire college and input is indeed welcome. 5.Open Discussion
Thanks to Fionnghuala Frisel for taking minutes at the Black Lion Meeting. If I have missed something please let me know and I’ll make corrections at a later date. - Marco Black Lion |
Adiantum - Golden Bear | Blatha an Oir - Bealidh | Dragon's Laire - Golden Dragon |
Glymm Mere - Be Wayre | Lions Gate - Sable Loat | Madrone - Red Tree |
Terra Pomaria - Hazel Leaf | Madrone - Red Tree | Montengarde - Sable Minotaur |
Wastekeep - Basilisk | Wealdsmere - Three Oaks |
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MANFREDO "MANNY" MANETTI Tincture: Always heraldic, no legal proper Type: Griffon, aka Gryphon Number: one Posture: Segreant, sometimes rampant Orientation: default Compatibility: period charge from c.1238 Defining characteristics: wings, addorsed Remarks: Conceals nature of forelimbs (standard avian or Assyrian leonine) with the affectation of anthropomorphic clothing. Known to routinely maintain a tommy-gun and is considered winged and armed. Do not approach without current RfS at hand. |
Teceangl Bach lions-blood@antir.sca.org tierna@agora.rdrop.com | July 29, 2002 Send thy comments here: | Brenda Klein 5235 SE Lambert St #A-5 Portland, OR 97206-9068 |
The August Lions Blood meeting will be held on Sunday, August
11th, at the home of HL Eglentyne Merryweather, AEstel Herald, in River's
Bend. 406 Quail Lane, Longview WA, 98632
Directions: From I-5 take exit 36 Longview/SR 432 and
head west to the exit for Truck Route/Hwy 432. Take that exit and head
south then west along 432 (watch the signs and stay on 432) until the junction
with Hwy 4. Turn right onto Hwy 4 and it's 1/2 mile down on the right
hand side, in Heritage Mobile Home Park. There should be signs.
The September Lions Blood meeting will be held on Sunday, September 15th, location TBA.
FROM LIONS BLOOD HERALD
Greetings from Teceangl Lions Blood!
There is a new Internal
Letter deputy! Lord Aedan and I have selected Marya Stepanova Kargashina
to take over. Aedan is still processing emblazons for the IL, but this
letter debuts Marya as the text developer. As in all submissions correspondence,
however, I am the responsible party for any misspellings, typos, and other
content matters. Aedan will be commenting on the IL, and I am very
pleased to have him in that capacity.
It has been pointed out to Lions Blood that in period rolls of
arms, the names generally came above the emblazons. Therefore, that
is the format the hardcopy IL emblazons will now take. The web version
will maintain the current format of including the emblazons in the entries
for ease of viewing.
Commenting: Remember that Lions Blood accepts commentary
from anyone who wishes to comment. This includes people who wish to
comment one time on one item, people who wish to comment only on specialized
stuff (Russian names, Islamic heraldry, weasels as charges, whatever), and
people from outside of An Tir looking to get commenting experience.
Letters of Comment should include the names and heraldic titles (if any)
of all commenters, the date of the IL upon which comments are made, and the
items commented upon in the order they appear on the IL using line numbers
and names to sort them out. Commentary is read at the Lions Blood meetings
but is not published in any form, and may be kept anonymous if requested.
Questions asked in letters of commentary will be addressed in the IL which
holds the results for the meeting at which the IL was ruled.
Emailed letters of comment are happily accepted in text, Word (and version)
and WordPerfect formats. Hardcopy should be mailed in time to arrive
by the listed deadline. Preferred format is anything which can be read
by human eyes, but I do like formatted text in case I need to cut & paste
blazons and URLs.
Some cover letter information from the March 2002 LoAR:
From Pelican: Regarding the Name Kathleen
Two submissions this month raised discussion regarding whether or not Kathleen is a period name.
Kathleen is an Anglicized Irish form of the Gaelic name Caitilín,
which itself derives from the Old French Cateline. Forms of Caitilín
have been found in Gaelic dating to the early 15th C and later. This leaves
a limited amount of time for Caitilín to become firmly established
enough to generate the Anglicized form Kathleen. At this time, no documentation
has been found that Kathleen was used in period.
Kathleen has been registered 45 times in the last two decades with at least
one registration in every year except two. This demonstrates consistent popularity
of the name. Regarding recent popularity of the name, there are two submissions
this month that include Kathleen as a given name. Additionally, it was registered
once in 2001, once in 1999, and four times in 1998. Given this level
of popularity, it is reasonable to consider Kathleen SCA compatible.
Some cover letter information from the April 2002 LoAR:
From Laurel: Glossary of Terms Update
The Rules for Submission
and the Administrative Handbook have recently been revised. It is now time
for a review of the Glossary of Terms. If you have suggestions for new terms,
updated definitions, or terms to remove, now is the time to speak up. Palimpsest
will be coordinating the collection of suggestions. Please include your glossary
update suggestions in a Letter of Comment by October 1, 2002. A draft will
be created and presented to the College for commentary by the end of the
year.
[Lions Blood footnote - any commentary you may wish to
be presented to Laurel regarding the Glossary may be sent to Lions Blood,
who will see it onto a Letter of Comment for you. Please include your
full SCA and any heraldic title.]
Pelican also includes an updated table and discussion on which Gaelic and
Anglicised particles should conflict. A must-read for anyone who works with
name documentation.
Wreath re-iterated the importance of the miniature emblazon matching the
blazon. It is still Lions Blood policy to require photo-reduction or
an exact-dimension computer reduction of line drawing emblazons on all armory
submission forms. The College of Arms sees only the miniature emblazon, so
faithful reproduction can save you a lot of hassles.
And a reminder of a recurring problem first addressed by Wreath in the LoAR of October 2001:
Please advise the submitter
to be careful on future submissions to avoid outlines so thick that they
appear to be fimbriation. My staff advises me that, in many cases, the problem
with thick outlines that appear to be fimbriation is due to use of the computer
program "Blazons". As a general rule, heraldic art from that program is flawed,
and we encourage the College to educate their submitters not to use this
program to generate the artwork used on their forms.
From Lord Anthony Hawke, Web encoder:
An Tir results from the LoAR dated April 2002 (see the LoAR
for full text):
(typos might exist - only the LoAR itself is definitive; other than name,
action and blazon, listings are paraphrased or abridged)
REGISTERED:
Antonella da Sicilia | Name and device. Per chevron sable and gules, a dagger inverted argent transfixing in base a crescent within a bordure embattled Or. |
Balthasar Yvon Charon | Device change. Ermine, a cross formy nowy vert and on a chief sable three crosses of Lorraine argent. |
Cáe Mór, Shire of | Branch name and device. Argent, on a fess sable between two laurel wreaths gules three chevronels braced Or. |
Findlaech mac Gille Andreas | Name and device. Vert, a saltire checky sable and Or. |
Julian Sinclair | Name. |
Juliana van Ardenburg | Name. |
Lia Anna Stewart | Name. |
Lovell of Shadwode | Name. |
Meadhbha inghean Bhriain Mhuilleóir | Name and device. Sable, on a bend sinister between
a raven contourny and masks of comedy and tragedy bendwise argent four thistles
bendwise purpure slipped and leaved vert. |
Rónnat ingen Fáeláin | Name. |
Roscelin de Limoges | Name and device. Gules, a natural panther passant argent marked sable and on a chief argent three roses gules. |
Serena Fabrizio | Name and device. Sable, three doves volant contourny argent. |
Titus Valerius Romanus | Device. Gules, in pale a vol and a vol inverted between in fess two billets fesswise Or. |
Vinjar, Canton of | Branch name and device. Quarterly sable and gules, a goblet argent within a laurel wreath Or. |
None. |
An Tir results from the LoAR dated May 2002 (see the LoAR
for full text):
(typos might exist - only the LoAR itself is definitive; other than name,
action and blazon, listings are paraphrased or abridged)
REGISTERED:
Aluara Hesel | Name and device. Azure, a Lacy knot argent within a bordure nebuly Or. |
Çinara Suberria | Device. Sable, a cherry blossom throughout argent seeded sable between five roundels all within a bordure argent. |
Conal MacLaren | Name. |
Elonda Blue Haven | Device reblazon.
Azure, semé of lightning flashes bendwise sinister Or, a sinister
hand cupped in profile fesswise argent maintaining in its palm a flame proper.
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Gwenevere McAy | Badge. (Fieldless) A dragon contourny sustaining a compass rose argent. |
Jean-Jacques Lavigne | Name and device. Per fess embattled vert and argent, three bunches of grapes and a willow tree eradicated counterchanged. |
Badge. (Fieldless) A bunch of grapes per pale argent and vert. | |
Krista Silverlock | Name and device. Gules, three annulets interlaced two and one and on a chief argent three wheels gules. |
Mahliqa bint Ali | Device. Per bend argent and purpure, in bend sinister two fish naiant in annulo counterchanged. |
Marguerite de Moseleia | Name. |
Mikhail Kurganovich | Name. |
Rafe Neuton | Name and device. Per chevron sable and argent, a demi-sun issuant from base azure. |
Viridis Solari | Name and device. Per saltire Or and argent, a sun within an orle vert. |
Willelm Bogamann | Name and device.
Per pale Or and sable, two hedgehogs rampant addorsed the dexter maintaining
a bow and the sinister maintaining an arrow inverted all counterchanged. |
Aeriesgard, Shire of. Branch name |
Both aerie and gard mean similar things. The constructed Aeriesgard
combines two elements that describe specific areas of land, and no
documentation could be found that this combination was plausible. Historically,
-geard and other forms of gard are modified by the protheme as to what exactly
is enclosed in the geard, such as Bromyard 'broom enclosure'. Aeriesgard
means 'area enclosure' and does not match documented constructions patterns. |
An Tir, Kingdom of |
Badge for the Office of the Earl Marshal Deputy for Siege. Checky Or and argent, a trebuchet at full release sable. Deputy marshals may not register badges below Corporate level, as stated in the LoAR of February 2002. |
Rúadhán Súilghlas |
Badge. (Fieldless) A flame proper. Conflict with William of Sark, Sable, a flame proper. Kingdom's argument that William's flame was drawn incorrectly for proper and could be reblazoned as Sable, on a flame Or another gules was seen to have merit, but Laurel deemed it more important to encourage holders of armory of the old fimbriated flame style to adopt the historically correct alternating tongues of gules and Or than to lock them into the incorrect rendition by reblazoning their armory. |
RESULTS OF THE JUNE LIONS BLOOD MEETING:
The following people were present at the June Lions Blood meeting or sent
commentary: Ciaran Goutte de Sang, Sebastian Sterne, Francesca Dragon's
Mist, Marya Stepanova Kargashina & Aaron, Natasha Vox Leonis, Trudchen
Summits, Thalia, Arontius of Bygelswade, Aleksei Zateev, Meadhbha inghean
Bhrain an Muilleóir, Ercc McFitheal, David Electrum, Ciar inghean
ui Fhothaidh, Iago Seagirt, Cecille de Beumund, Briana nic h'Eusaidh, Guilelmo
Francesco, Christopher Red Tree, Frederic Queue Forchee, Dieterich von Zweibrücken,
Drogo the Forgetful, Antoinette, Dave, Moreach nicmhaolain, Li Ban Northern
Principality Herald, Tadgg h-úa Faelan of Clan MacNessa, Meradudd
Redewolf, Emma Bealidh, John Kane of Kent, Pendar Rampart, Teceangl Lions
Blood, and a very personable ferret.
The following names and armory have been sent to Laurel
(May LoI) --
Adriana the Fierce |
Badge, New
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(Fieldless) An ermine statant reguardant contourny ermine. |
Aelfric MacRancan |
Device, New
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Vert, a decrescent and in chief three mullets of eight points Or. |
An Tir, Kingdom of, Pomegranate Herald |
Heraldic Title, New
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Intended to be a Black Lion staff title. |
Aric McBride |
Name and Device, New
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Argent, a griffon sable rampant to sinister and a bordure embattled gules. | ||
The submitter's name was registered
in November 1989. The submitter's current device, Azure, a unicorn
rampant contourny and on a chief invected argent three suns azure is to be
released upon registration of this change. |
Brénainn mac Pádraig |
Name and Device, New
| |
Per fess wavy argent and azure, in chief a saltire vert and in base a lymphad argent. |
Eogan mac Áeda |
Name and Device, New
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Per fess sable and gules, a dance Or and in chief two mullets argent. |
Eulalia deRavenfeld |
Name and Device, New
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Argent, a dragon sejant within six increscents in orle azure. |
John de Montainville |
Name and Device, New
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Argent, two bars azure and overall a winged lion rampant guardant gules. |
Juliana van Ardenburg |
Device, New
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Or, on a fess vert a castle Or. |
Muireann O Reddan |
Name and Device, New
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Vert, a bend sinister between an eagle rising and a sheaf of arrows Or. |
Muriel qui porte les chaperons |
Name, New
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Olcán Mac Meanma |
Name, New
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Rhiannon Boyle |
Name and Device, New
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Or semy of decresents azure, an oak tree eradicated sable leaved vert. |
Rioghnach of Ruantallan |
Device, New
| |
Per pall argent, gules, and
vert, in chief a quatrefoil gules seeded and barbed vert and in base two
griffins rampant combatant argent. |
Robert of Hawthorne |
Device, Resubmission
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Gules, a sinister arm embowed sustaining a bow fesswise string to base and a bordure argent. |
Sveinn Harðfari |
Device, Resubmission
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Per bend Or and bendy gules and Or, a demon's head couped affronty gules wearing an arming cap sable. |
Tressach mac Domnaill |
Device, New
| |
Per bend gules and sable, a bend wavy or and in chief a dogwood blossom argent. |
Aelana Cordovera |
Name and Device, New
| |
Vert, a six pointed mullet voided and in chief a roundel between a decrescent and an increscent, argent. | ||
The construction of the forename
was not documented with dated sources, leaving both the name and the construction
speculative enough that the CoH felt that Laurel would not be able to register
it. |
John de Montainville |
Badge, New
| |
(Fieldless) A winged lion rampant guardant gules. | ||
Conflict with the kingdom of Leon:
Argent, a lion rampant gules. Adding wings to a charge which does not
normally have them is enough change for a CD under normal circumstances.
However, Laurel has stated, "In a winged quadruped monster such as a griffin,
a normal depiction has the wings one-third to one-half of the visual weight
of the charge." The wings of this lion were enough less than one-third
the visual weight of the lion that the majority of commenters believed that
Laurel would return this badge for the conflict above. A redraw with
Bigger, Bolder, Butcher wings was suggested. |
Meg Gwyneth Llewellyn |
Name and Device, New
| |
Purpure, on a bend sinister wavy Or a triquetra sable. | ||
The submitter only allowed minor
changes to the name, however none of the submitted spellings were documented
with dated examples. Changing the spelling of all three elements constituted
more than minor changes. |
Muriel qui porte les chaperons |
Device, New
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Gules, three fleurs-de-lis argent. | ||
Conflict with Caterine d'Albret,
Per pale vert and purpure, three fleurs-de-lys argent, registered in April
2002. Only one CD for changes to the field. |
Olcán Mac Meanma |
Device, New
| |
Gules, a bend sable fimbriated between a wolf rampant and an axe argent. | ||
Conflict with the protected flag
of Trinidad and Tobago: Gules, a bend sable fimbriated argent, with just
one CD for the addition of the secondary charge group. Also conflict
with William de Corbie: Gules, a bend sable, fimbriated, between two crosses
crosslet fitchy argent, with one CD for changing the type of secondary charges
but nothing else. |
Richard Touchet de Cathédrele Ste. Croix |
Name and Device, New
| |
Sable a Pegasus couped at the
shoulder argent and a point pointed fleury at the point Or and on a chief
gules five mullets of four points Or. | ||
No documentation was presented for the name and none could be found, therefore the name had to be returned. The device broke the Rule of Tincture, having a gules chief on a sable field. Additionally, the head was not recognizable as a Pegasus' head, which would have had the wings issuant from the back of the neck. Commenters either could not see the wing at all or thought it was just an artistic treatment of the mane. The device was returned for both of these problems. |
Rikku no Kenteí |
Name, New
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The College could not find anything
to support a Japanese forename with a Mongolian locative, and no documentation
was provided with the submission. |
Tamlin MacGrim na Westrae |
Name Resubmission and Device, New
| |
Argent, a mullet of six points
voided and interlaced within and conjoined to a serpent involved head to
sinister sable, chief rayonny sable two roundels argent. | ||
The documentation for Tamlin was
shaky; the source cited lists it only as a surname and does not state that
the diminutive form Tamlin was ever used as a personal name. Tamlin
seems to be English. MacGrim is said to be Scots and descended from
Old Norse. na Westrae appears to be Gaelic. Mixing more than
two languages in the same name is not allowed. |
Tamlin MacGrim na Westrae | Badge, New | |
(Fieldless) A mullet of six points voided and interlaced within and conjoined to a serpent involved head to sinister sable. | ||
The mullet was not conjoined to the serpent in the color emblazon, therefore
this design was not registerable as a fieldless badge. |
NEW SUBMISSIONS:
1. Brighid ingen Mac Tire Ruadh |
(Cold Keep)
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Name and Device, New
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Argent, a wolf contourny passant reguardant gules and a chief enarched sable | ||
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The submitter will only accept
minor changes to the name. If the name must be changed, she cares more
about the meaning of the name. The submitter states the meaning to be "Brighid,
daughter of Red Wolf". The submitter desires a female name authentic
for 11th to 12th century Irish, and she will allow the creation of a holding
name. Brighid is cited from Ó Corráin & Maguire's Irish Names (1981), pg. 36, header Brigit: Brighid, Bríd ingen is cited from Sharon L Krossa's "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" in the section "Simple Patronymic Bynames", found online at http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames /quickgaelicnames/index.shtml . A photocopy of the site is included. Mac Tíre is cited from Ó Corráin & Maguire (1981) pg. 4 which says, "In Ireland the wolf was a tabu animal and terms other than his name were used to describe him... and mac tíre 'son of the land'. " It is also found in Woulfe pg. 617 as Ó Mactíre or Ó MacTíre (capitalization is difficult to parse given the Gaelic type font.) Ruadh is cited from Ó Corráin & Maguire (1981) pg. 3, which gives ruad as 'red-haired'. The construction Mac Tire Ruadh is supported by Wolfe, pg. 3: names formed by the union of a noun and a qualifying adjective, as Ciar-mhac,'black son; donn-cheann, ' brown head'; dubh-chu, 'black hound'.... the adjective may follow the noun, as bairr-fhionn, 'fair head'; bran-dubh, 'black raven'; giolla-dubh, 'black lad'. |
2. Darbie of Ironmaid for Symmonne Deccarrete de Villete | (Wealdsmere) | Alternate Name and Badge, New |
Argent, a dragon gules and another sable combattant, tails nowed in a Bouchier
knot in base, in chief, a goutte per pale wavey gules & sable . | ||
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The submitter will not accept
changes to the name. The submitter desires a 13th-16th century French female
name. She will allow the creation of a holding name. Her primary name
was registered in November of 1992. Symmonne is documented from An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris, http://www.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html , which shows the spellings Symon and Simon (male), and Symonne, Simmonete, Simmonete, Symonet, and Symonnet (female). Additional evidence of the duplicating of consonants is shown in the same document with the pairs Jehannete and Jehannette, Juliane and Julienne, and with Perronele, Perronnele, and Perronnele. Given the documented variants of doubled consonants and the i to y switch, the submitter considers Symmonne to be a plausible alternate spelling. Deccarete is cited from Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520 http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/bordeaux.html showing "Jehan Daccarete, also listed as Decarrete". Submitter wishes to combine the two spelling variations into Deccarrete. de Villete is found in French Names from Two Thirteenth Century Chronicles online at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/crusades/crusadesLieux.html where this spelling is recorded. Photocopies of all websites are included. |
3. Duncan Darroch | (Ramsgaard) | Device, Resubmission to Kingdom |
Per chevron ploye argent and vert three compass stars counterchanged. | ||
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The submitter's name appears on the April 2002 An Tir LoI. His previous device, Vert, on a chevron throughout argent five compass stars vert and in base a plate, was returned for conflict with Johanna Ljublijana: Sable, on a chevron throughout argent three mullets of four points, in base a plate.
One CD existed for changing the tincture of the field, but mullets of four
points and compass stars differ only by the lesser points, therefore by Laurel
precedent are considered the same basic charge, so no difference exists by
X.4.i. or X.4.j. when number is the only change. This is a total redesign. |
4. Einar Leifsson | (Blatha an Oir) | Name and Device, New |
Gules a bend bretessed between a hunting horn and an axe Argent. | ||
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The submitter will accept any
changes to the name. If the name must be changed, the submitter cares
more about the language/culture of the name. The submitter desires
a masculine name, but specifies no time period, language, and/or culture
for which he wishes the name to be authentic, though Old Norse can be inferred
from the documentation. Einarr is cited from Geirr Bassi, The Old Norse Name, pg. 9. Leifr is cited from Geirr Bassi pg. 13. The submitter states that the formation of the patronymic is consistent with Geirr Bassi, pg. 6. |
5. Elianor Talbot of Wynchestre | (Dragon's Laire) | Device, New |
Vert, two talbot's heads erased argent and on a base chevron embattled an open book vert. | ||
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The submitter's name was registered in August of 1996 and corrected in September of 1996. Web Editor's Note: The chevron should be tinctured argent. |
6. Elianor Talbot of Wynchestre | (Dragon's Laire) | Badge, New |
A closed book Vert. | ||
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The submitter's name was registered
in August of 1996 and corrected in September of 1996. This badge is
intended to be fieldless. |
7. Elianor Talbot of Wynchestre | (Dragon's Laire) | Badge, New |
A talbot's head erased argent. | ||
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The submitter's name was registered in August of 1996 and corrected in September
of 1996. This badge is intended to be fieldless. |
8. Gordon Redthorn | (Wyewood) | Badge, New |
Fieldless a Maunche Sable. | ||
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The submitter's name was registered in November of 1993. |
9. Nikolai Toranovich | (Seagirt) | Name and Device, New |
Sable, a saltire embattled argent. | ||
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The submitter will only accept
minor changes to the name. If the name must be changed, he cares more
about the meaning of the name, which he wishes to be "Nikolai son of Toran".
The submitter desires a masculine name, and will allow the creation of a
holding name. Nikolai is cited from Wickenden's Dictionary of Period Russian Names, 2nd ed. found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/.html "s.n. Nikolai (m) - Nikolai, metropolitan.1291 [RIB II 1]" Toran is also cited from Wickenden, 2nd ed "s.n. Taran (m) - Vars. Toran (Toran Germanovich). 1543. [Tup 387]" The construction of the patronymic is also supported by Wickenden in his section on patronymic formation at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/zgrammar.html which says that if the father's name ended in other than "-a" or "-ia", the basic patronymic ended in "-ov" or "-ev". Further along it gives another patronymic construction for the "-vich" version. He says, "Simply add an "-ich"to the basic patronymic construction (case #1) in most cases, with the exception of given names that end in "-av"..." Given as an example is, "Antonov becomes Antonovich". While some copies are included this is an appendix H work. |
10. Roland Ducat | (Madrone) | Name and Device, New |
Azure, in pale a griffon statant contorny and a crescent Or. | ||
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The submitter desires a male name authentic to French Normandy, accepts any changes, and cares most about the sound. Roland is cited from Dauzat's Nom de Famille, pg. 525. Ducat is also cited from Dauzat, pg. 215. |
11. Rose Scarlett Slade | (Shittimwoode) | Device, Resubmission to Laurel |
Argent, a merbunny bear trident sable, in chief three heraldic roses. | ||
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The submitter's name was registered in 1992. Her previous device, Per pall argent, gules, and sable, in chief a rose proper in sinister a sword inverted proper
, was returned from Laurel in July 1998 for ambiguity of the field division
and lack of period style due to unbalanced design. This is a total redesign.
The submitter includes a 16th century example of the sea-coney as an heraldic
charge from Wappenbuch der Stadt Basel with the armory being for Graf: Gules, a brown sea-coney proper tailed argent. (Blazon supplied by Lions Blood - no ordinary entry came with the documentation.) The sea-coney and trident are sable, the roses are gules barbed vert and seeded Or. |
12. Roxanne Delaroche | (Myrgan Wood) | Name and Device, New |
Sable, a leopard's head jessant-de-lis or. | ||
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The submitter will not accept
major changes and wants a feminine name authentic for 16th - 17th c. French
with equal emphasis on the importance of language and time period.
Two webpages are used to document Roxanne. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04751b.htm , an entry of the Catholic Encyclopedia, states that Jean Desmarets de Saint-Sorlin, a French dramatist and novelist was born in Paris in 1595 and died there in 1676. Listed among the plays that he wrote is "Roxane". He also began, but never finished, a novel also named "Roxane". Also given is the translation of the webpage on Italian artists of the Renaissance found at http://perso.club-internet.fr/fatthalin/louvre/histoire_art/renaissance/renaissance7.html which says in French, " Attiré à Rome par Peruzzi, Sodoma travaille auprès de lui à la villa Farnésine (1511-1512): il y peint dans la chambre à coucher la célèbre fresque représentant les Noces d’Alexandre et de Roxane , où l’ascendant de Raphaël est sensible; mais le cadre architectural est lourd, encombré par le vol des putti." The translation is very rough, but the pertinent details are that the artistSodoma Giovanni Antonio Bazzi painted a fresco representing the Weddings of Alexandre and Roxane in the bedroom of the villa Farnésine in Rome in the years 1511-1512. The submitter states, "The name Delaroche has been documented and passed for my Lord, Raoul Achille Delaroche. As we function as a married couple in the SCA, and are married mundanely, it makes sense for me to take his name." No other documentation is included. Raoul Delaroche was registered without comment on the name on the LoAR of July 1992. On the device the field is black, the fleur-de-lys is Or, but the feline's head is brown. |
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